Graviteh Trades for Timo

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Créé par: areax91

Équipe: 2022-23 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2023

Publié: 2 févr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Timo Meier is the top trade target this season, and he's been getting a lot of attention.

Graviteh on Sportsnet's YT channel shared three packages. The Sharks are looking for quality over quantity, and of the three, I think Buffalo is the most realistic (though I do think they'd rather have Levi as their choice of top prospect). I do think there are better packages out there for both sides, thoughts?

Transactions

SJS

Bahl, Kevin
Brennan, Tyler [Liste de réserve]
Holtz, Alexander
Sharangovich, Yegor
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

NJD

Timo Meier

SJS

Kulich, Jiri
Neuchev, Viktor [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)

BUF

Timo Meier
Matt Benning

SJS

Kerfoot, Alexander
Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

TOR

Timo Meier (50% retention)

Rachats de contrats

Martin Jones: 2 416 667 $
Rūdolfs Balcers: 8 334 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	70 670 001 $	0 $	0 $	11 829 999 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
	Hertl, Tomas 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Lindblom, Oskar 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 5	Barabanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
Gregor, Noah 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Bonino, Nick 1 025 000 $1 025 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Eyssimont, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Gadjovich, Jonah 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 3	Lorentz, Steven 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2
Svechnikov, Evgeny 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Megna, Jaycob 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Kähkönen, Kaapo 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 2
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4	Benning, Matthew 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Reimer, James 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Ferraro, Mario 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG UFA - 4	MacDonald, Jacob 762 500 $762 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Harrington, Scott 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2	Nutivaara, Markus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (250 000 $$250K) DG/DD UFA - 1
	Simek, Radim 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Knyzhov, Nikolai 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
		Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
		Sharangovich, Yegor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1
		Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3
		Bahl, Kevin 795 000 $795 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 1
		Kulich, Jiri 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4
		Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1

2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 10

littlejerryseinfeld

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That is too rich for me as a sabres fan. It is also far far more than you are asking from the leafs

Sneaky with Neuchev.

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 11

Claesson4Norris

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My first thought is that Grav is absolutely insufferable to listen to, so good on you for making it through one of his videos long enough to find out what he's talking about

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 12

wojme

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One of these packages is different than the others

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 15

NHLfan10506

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Why does the NJD package return so much more than the others?

2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 23

areax91

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

That is too rich for me as a sabres fan. It is also far far more than you are asking from the leafs

Sneaky with Neuchev.

I know re: the Leafs. I don't think it makes sense for Toronto given their cap issues, as it would effectively make Timo a rental. Getting Knies would be good but I don't think Dubas will want to part with hiim just yet.

As great as it would be get the haul proposed, the Devils would probably be giving up too much for this trade to work. I'm also not sure how willing they'd be to pay for Timo's extension given Bratt will also be out of contract as a RFA, but there's probably an adjusted package to make this work. Perhaps...
- NJ gets: Timo
- SJ gets: Holtz, Sharangovich, Blackwood, lottery-protected 1st, 2024 3rd (for Blackwood cap dump)

For the Sabres, I think they're the best fit for Timo but I could work with a different package. Was thinking of:
- Buffalo gets: Timo, Megna
- SJ gets: Neuchev, Levi, lottery protected 1st, 5th (for Megna)

2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 24

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: areax91

I know re: the Leafs. I don't think it makes sense for Toronto given their cap issues, as it would effectively make Timo a rental. Getting Knies would be good but I don't think Dubas will want to part with hiim just yet.

As great as it would be get the haul proposed, the Devils would probably be giving up too much for this trade to work. I'm also not sure how willing they'd be to pay for Timo's extension given Bratt will also be out of contract as a RFA, but there's probably an adjusted package to make this work. Perhaps...
- NJ gets: Timo Meier
- SJ gets: Holtz, Sharangovich, Blackwood, lottery-protected 1st, 2024 3rd (for Blackwood cap dump)

For the Sabres, I think they're the best fit for Timo but I could work with a different package. Was thinking of:
- Buffalo gets: Timo, Megna
- SJ gets: Neuchev, Levi, lottery protected 1st, 5th (for Megna)

We're not trading levi

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 27

goodfella

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Why does the NJD package return so much more than the others?

Because you guys are troublemakers on this website.

2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 29

Cb24

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TML package is weak especially since it requires to retain so much... Even as a pure rental, but if Dubas did this trade I could see him resigning Meier then moving Nylander
Buff a NJ way too much, NJ take out Holtz
Buffalo replace Jiri with Middlestadd take out 2nd

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 30

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Why does the NJD package return so much more than the others?

Because Grav doesn't anything about hockey

2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 34

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

My first thought is that Grav is absolutely insufferable to listen to, so good on you for making it through one of his videos long enough to find out what he's talking about

Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Because Grav doesn't anything about hockey

Did Grav kill your family lol? I don't find him that bad, actually kind of like his content.

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 37

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Levi is a keeper for sabres, portillo seems to want to go to ufa if you want a goalie prospect and sanjose should be an enticing prospect for a goalie prospect. But really sabres have the skinner contract to contend with so i cant see then adding another high price winger until they shake out the rest of the roster.
I could offer nuechev, ostlund, portillo and a 2023 1st. But thats not even going to stay on the table long.

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 44

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Kulich is untouchable (Levi too) Sabres have other prospects to work with

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2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 46

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Quoting: DDossett

The Sabres are below the cap minimum and had to take on Bishop to be compliant. The Skinner contract isn't that bad

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2 févr. 2023 à 19 h 31

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I don’t think these are terrible proposals…

As a Sabres fan I would counter with the following…

1) I’d really rather not deal Kulich.
Ostlund or Rosen would definitely be available. Both 1st rounders. Rosen is closer but is strictly a wing. Ostlund is much more likely to be a long term center but will take time to develop properly.

2) If you want a goalie, take out Neuchev, add Portillo.

3) I’d rather keep the Philly 2nd rounder. Could we sub in one of Mittelstadt or Olofsson? Or a different prospect, Buffalo has loads of forward prospects available.

2 févr. 2023 à 19 h 35

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2023 1st
Ostlund
Portillo
2024 2nd

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2 févr. 2023 à 19 h 50

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

My first thought is that Grav is absolutely insufferable to listen to, so good on you for making it through one of his videos long enough to find out what he's talking about

I think you forgot to add that he is completely delusional in at least 97% of his trade proposals. I go as far as wonder how he even gets paid for his “content”. There are bad crazy like Grav, and there are good crazy like Dangle. Graviteh is one of the worst sources you could choose.

2 févr. 2023 à 20 h 9

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I wouldn't do kulich and the 23 first. I would do ostlund/Rosen and the 23 first. If they insist on savoie or kulich, then i would only go 24 first. I would gladly add mittelstadt, I would not add olofsson. If we need to add something else, I would do Bloom, a second, or one of the Russian wingers. Any more than that and somebody else can have him. Maybe jersey wants to get nutty and beat that, but I doubt it.

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3 févr. 2023 à 3 h 50

#18

Tintin

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Quoting: areax91

- NJ gets: Timo
- SJ gets: Holtz, Sharangovich, Blackwood, lottery-protected 1st, 2024 3rd (for Blackwood cap dump)

This is way too much for Meier.
If Holtz is dealt with a 1st rd pick alone the Devils are overpaying, nevermind adding Sharangovich to the deal.

Also, Blackwood isn't capdump, he's quietly been pretty good in a limited role this year.

3 févr. 2023 à 6 h 0

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Quoting: evelutions2

I find Dangle difficult to listen to. I used to like his podcast, but adjusting my volume every 10 seconds because he jumps from mumbling to screaming was getting to be a nuisance. But I don't find him to be that much of a homer.

3 févr. 2023 à 6 h 6

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Quoting: Ritzy

Frankly, I don’t listen to the sdpn podcast that much, other than when they bring up certain topics of interest. I am more in for Dangle with Hat picks and dang it’s, but he is definitely a good crazy.

3 févr. 2023 à 9 h 58

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: evelutions2

Like him or hate him, Dangle at least has a natural on camera charisma. So much of hockey YouTube is a bunch of young guys trying to emulate him without any of that natural comfort in front of a camera, and it makes them so stilted and awkward, or outright irritating.

3 févr. 2023 à 14 h 40

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dgibb10

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Holtz>Knies
1st=1st
Yegor>>Kerfoot
and the devils for some reason have to throw in 2 more assets??
AND the leafs get retention while devils dont??

3 févr. 2023 à 14 h 47

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dgibb10

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Quoting: areax91

devils can definitely keep meier and bratt. devs have about 36 mill in cap space. meier+bratt at 17 total, yegor zett tatar at 9-10 total, 4th line at 4-5 total, graves at 4, that's 35. and you don't necessarily need to keep graves to play 3rd pairing, or pay a 3rd line winger that much.
palat Hischier bratt
meier hughes yegor
tatar mercer zetterlund
prospect mcleod bastian
hamilton siegs
hughes marino
graves nemec
vitek
schmid

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