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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #9: Bruce, There it Goes

29 janv. 2023 à 21 h 58
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At this point, more buyers than sellers...yes? no?

All Possible Buyers (21): BOS, BUF, CGY, CAR, COL, DAL, EDM, FLA, LAK, MIN, NSH, NJD, NYI, NYR, PIT, SEA, TBL, TOR, VGK, WAS, WPG
...w/ $2m+ cap space (16): BOS, BUF, CGY, CAR, COL, FLA, MIN, NSH, NJD, NYI, NYR, PIT, SEA, VGK, WAS, WPG
..and in playoff position (11): BOS, CAR, COL, MIN, NJD, NYR, PIT, SEA, VGK, WAS, WPG
..and with top prospect/1st (9): CAR, MIN, NJD, NYR, PIT, SEA, VGK, WAS, WPG
(and some of those appear unwilling to take rentals)

Sellers (11): ANA, ARI, CHI, CBJ, DET, MTL, OTT, PHI, SJS, STL, VAN
(and half those have been described as in "retool")

It seems to be there are few real buyers with cap space and assets to move...and fewer teams that have committed to full rebuild.

(trying to determine any signals it could be buyers market or sellers market...I got nothing)


With all the injuries and the cap situation, i think it's going to be a sellers market.

As much as 10 teams could be looking for help at center, with only 5 or 6 available. Same for defense.
29 janv. 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: LIRIK
With all the injuries and the cap situation, i think it's going to be a sellers market.

As much as 10 teams could be looking for help at center, with only 5 or 6 available. Same for defense.


That would be my guess.

Sellers market for
- Centers and dmen with term
- Low AAV rentals

Neutral market
- Rental centers and dmen

Buyers market for
- Wingers
- High AAV rentals

(Also some team is going to make a killing on selling their cap space this year).
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29 janv. 2023 à 22 h 38
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That would be my guess.

Sellers market for
- Centers and dmen with term
- Low AAV rentals

Neutral market
- Rental centers and dmen

Buyers market for
- Wingers
- High AAV rentals

(Also some team is going to make a killing on selling their cap space this year).


I could see teams asking for as much as a 3rd to retain on high AAV rentals like Kane or Toews.
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29 janv. 2023 à 22 h 47
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Where did the idea that Zegras said something about Stecher's father come from?
29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 10
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Zegras might not have said THE bad thing but he still said A bad thing to Troy Stecher


Which is like saying the Montreal Canadiens this year aren’t as bad as the previous year’s team
29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 27
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Quoting: Brian2016
Where did the idea that Zegras said something about Stecher's father come from?


Lip readers on twitter

And the gesture of Zegras pointing up
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30 janv. 2023 à 0 h 8
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Zegras might not have said THE bad thing but he still said A bad thing to Troy Stecher


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Never change Brad
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30 janv. 2023 à 6 h 52
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Quoting: Brian2016
Where did the idea that Zegras said something about Stecher's father come from?


As Devil said a bit of lip reading and the gesture of pointing up but also that Stecher was extremely mad, more than a player normally is during a scrum
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30 janv. 2023 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Devil
Lip readers on twitter

And the gesture of Zegras pointing up


what if he was just acknowledging the tribal chief?
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30 janv. 2023 à 10 h 56
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RIP to a legend
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30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 6
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RIP to a legend


Chicago sports this season: ↘️↘️↘️↘️↘️↘️↘️
30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 8
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RIP to a legend


Amazing hockey player, first big name to sign in the WHA, questionable person as i am learning apparently
30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 15
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Amazing hockey player, first big name to sign in the WHA, questionable person as i am learning apparently


Just read he beat his wife
30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 25
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Just read he beat his wife


Not defending his actions by any means but we can’t act like at least 80% of teams have employed people like that
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30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 30
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Not defending his actions by any means but we can’t act like at least 80% of teams have employed people like that


Bobby Hull allegedly once said "Hitler, for example, had some good ideas. He just went a little bit too far," ( Chicago Tribune article from 1998 ). It just sucks you learn this stuff due to someone dying
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30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 32
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Bobby Hull allegedly once said "Hitler, for example, had some good ideas. He just went a little bit too far," ( Chicago Tribune article from 1998 ). It just sucks you learn this stuff due to someone dying


You can’t deny that fact, and I’ll admit I never knew about that article but I did know about the domestic abuse for a while
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30 janv. 2023 à 11 h 58
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bobby hull was a terrible person
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 5
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bobby hull was a terrible person


let the legend have at lest a day of mourning before you start canceling him
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 7
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let the legend have at lest a day of mourning before you start canceling him


We can celebrate Bobby Hull the hockey player while still calling out his deficiencies as a person
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 7
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let the legend have at lest a day of mourning before you start canceling him


cancelling him because he was wifebeater, nazi sympathizer and eugenics supporter. okay.
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 17
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Quoting: oilersguy
let the legend have at lest a day of mourning before you start canceling him


i don't think the hull family and their millions of dollars in earnings are gonna lose sleep at night over what a few schmucks in a hockey forum are gonna say
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 45
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let the legend have at lest a day of mourning before you start canceling him


Yah, pretty messed up to start calling him a terrible person right after he dies. Not defending his actions but it’s pretty bad timing.
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 48
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Amazing hockey player, first big name to sign in the WHA, questionable person as i am learning apparently


Tends to happen when someone dies. Their character gets thrown into question when they can't defend themselves
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30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 49
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Tends to happen when someone dies. Their character gets thrown into question when they can't defend themselves


Makes sense. What are some examples?
30 janv. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Yah, pretty messed up to start calling him a terrible person right after he dies. Not defending his actions but it’s pretty bad timing.


The thing is you learn stuff about said player after they die, simply due to the fact it’s the “perfect time” to figure out how you want to remember them
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