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Toronto Maple Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion (Part 3)

22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 3
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Yeah but again, we didn't know who would be good and what exactly we needed. More offense maybe but what kind? Transition is fine, do we want playmaking? A goal scorer? Hard to get both for cheap with the contract limit (remember we were at 50 as is). And we do need guys like ZAR for our depth, we just dont need 2 of them (like hunt), but again. We didnt know who was going to be ritchie or bunting and its much easier to pick up a depth scorer at the deadline than depth grit, and they get you much more bang for the buck in trades too


More offence

Agree to disagree, we could do this all day.

From this:

Engvall-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok
AstonReese-Kampf-AubeKubel

To this:

McMann Kampf Engvall
ZAR Kerfoot Hunt (waived)

There is not one offensive (🤞McMann) play making or finishing forward in this group.
22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 44
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More offence

Agree to disagree, we could do this all day.

From this:

Engvall-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok
AstonReese-Kampf-AubeKubel

To this:

McMann Kampf Engvall
ZAR Kerfoot Hunt (waived)

There is not one offensive (🤞McMann) play making or finishing forward in this group.


I mean kerf is literally a playmaker. Its one of his best qualities lol.

Necc is a transition winger, kampf is a defensive centre, zar is grit who can play. All are worth having
22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
More offence

Agree to disagree, we could do this all day.

From this:

Engvall-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok
AstonReese-Kampf-AubeKubel

To this:

McMann Kampf Engvall
ZAR Kerfoot Hunt (waived)

There is not one offensive (🤞McMann) play making or finishing forward in this group.


Quoting: Random2152
I mean kerf is literally a playmaker. Its one of his best qualities lol.

Necc is a transition winger, kampf is a defensive centre, zar is grit who can play. All are worth having


If I were Kyle Dubas on March 3rd, I would go out and get two middle six forwards and call it a day. That being said, I have zero idea who you would want to go out and get. This TDL is going to be full of surprises
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22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 55
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I mean kerf is literally a playmaker. Its one of his best qualities lol.

Necc is a transition winger, kampf is a defensive centre, zar is grit who can play. All are worth having


Literally everyone gets better without him
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Dude has 21 points (7 of them secondary) so really 14 points in 47 games. That’s some play making.

We need a offensive/play driving 3C (ideally right shot) and a right shot/heavy 4RW. We currently have no right shots in the bottom six.

Agree to disagree, if you like the bottom 6, all good
22 janv. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Literally everyone gets better without him
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Dude has 21 points (7 of them secondary) so really 14 points in 47 games. That’s some play making.

We need a offensive/play driving 3C (ideally right shot) and a right shot/heavy 4RW. We currently have no right shots in the bottom six.

Agree to disagree, if you like the bottom 6, all good


Oh, dont get me wrong, im not a kerfoot guy. But he is a playmaker and a decent one at that. I can't find it right now but mica's model shows his setting impact as being pretty strong
22 janv. 2023 à 18 h 19
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I realize there is risk but I really freakin hope Dubas is monitoring this situation. If there was an opportunity to get him, I’d be all over that
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22 janv. 2023 à 18 h 32
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I realize there is risk but I really freakin hope Dubas is monitoring this situation. If there was an opportunity to get him, I’d be all over that


Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Vrana - Tavares - Marner
Jarnkrok - Holmberg - Puljujarvi
Aston Reese - Kampf - Engvall

Yes please. Marner - Vrana would be insane
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22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: Nathaniel
Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Vrana - Tavares - Marner
Jarnkrok - Holmberg - Puljujarvi
Aston Reese - Kampf - Engvall

Yes please. Marner - Vrana would be insane


Holmberg is pretty god awful in the draws, I’m cool with him in the lineup but as a winger.

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Vrana - Tavares - Marner
Holmberg - Acciari - Jarnkrok
Engvall - Kampf - Sundqvist
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22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 16
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Holmberg is pretty god awful in the draws, I’m cool with him in the lineup but as a winger.

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Vrana - Tavares - Marner
Holmberg - Acciari - Jarnkrok
Engvall - Kampf - Sundqvist


I just hope we see something done sooner than later. For the last few months I've preached about Garland, Puljujarvi, and a ton of other guys (because there are a ton of great possibilities), but at this point I could really care less about who it is, as long as it's someone. Typically I am a pretty big Dubas fan, but most of his moves this year have me scratching my head. Instead of pursuing any of the decent options out there, he instead opts for the Dryden Hunts and Nic Aube Kubel's of the world. It leaves me scratching my head. This deadline is going to be make or break
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22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 40
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Holmberg is pretty god awful in the draws, I’m cool with him in the lineup but as a winger.

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Vrana - Tavares - Marner
Holmberg - Acciari - Jarnkrok
Engvall - Kampf - Sundqvist


Was doing some digging on Vrana's situation and I got concerns

As if hes putting in no effort even in the AHL like why do we want him. I get what he can do but this seems like a guy who will butt heads with Keefe and yes Keefe has dealt with guys like this before but it just feels like it wont end well

For Holmberg I wonder if there is a wing available via the TDL that can do faceoffs. As we have seen teams utilize that kind of system where the wing take the faceoffs over the Centre. We did it once with Nylander where he would take faceoffs for Kerfoot

Moving back to Vrana sure maybe moving teams will improve things but man the whole situation seems fishy to me
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23 janv. 2023 à 1 h 26
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I’d prefer to say we have no untouchables for the right player with term . We are so close but we need to add more scoring.

If the right player is there, they have to go all in


Okay, trade maybe one of those guys but 2? That is where I'd draw the line. Dubas might be making trades to go for it and that's probably why picks should be in play moreso than the organization's players who will have a real shot at stepping into the lineup a year or two from now.
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23 janv. 2023 à 14 h 10
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23 janv. 2023 à 14 h 17
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The Marlies MIGHT be an absolute wagon come playoff time:

Abruzzese Shaw Anderson
Steeves SDA Hunt
Hirvonen Blandsi Gaudette
Tverberg Abramov Johnstone

Dahlstrom Hollowell
Rifai Hoefenmeyer
Kral Niemela

Woll
Petruzzelli
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23 janv. 2023 à 14 h 54
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Kinda figured he would
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23 janv. 2023 à 15 h 5
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Im kind of okay with it as if ZAR get hurt u got a guy who is basically the same to call up meaning no lineup issues. And he did enough not to be like alright if we need yah we can use yah

Would have been nice for another contract spot but meh we can work around that as I feel Dubas is gonna make a move soon (Late Jan/Early Feb hes made 3)
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 6
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Anyone know why Gaudette hasn't gotten called up yet? When they signed him everyone though they were planning to use him as a 4th line centre, but he hasn't even been called up yet. Am I missing something or is everyone else wondering the same thing?
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 13
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Anyone know why Gaudette hasn't gotten called up yet? When they signed him everyone though they were planning to use him as a 4th line centre, but he hasn't even been called up yet. Am I missing something or is everyone else wondering the same thing?


Kyle Cushman explained it in a tweet. Hes impressed but there is still work to do at both ends.
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23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 16
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Kyle Cushman explained it in a tweet. Hes impressed but there is still work to do at both ends.


Ok but still. Was he not brought in with the possibility of playing for the leafs? Are the marlies just that good that there's so many other options to bring up?
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Ok but still. Was he not brought in with the possibility of playing for the leafs? Are the marlies just that good that there's so many other options to bring up?


He was brought in and man had a miserable camp

Like Malgin, Robertson, Steeves, and McMann all looked better while he was just a ghost. I feel he might get a call up but maybe the Leafs want him down to regain his confidence. As man Van rushed him
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23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 41
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Sheldon Keefe putting the 4th line against the Isles top line in the offensive zone got to one of the worst decisions hes made.

Leafs also have not been playing with any intensity they showed flashes but man that was bad. Sammy can only do so much jesus
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 45
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I honestly want to see the finishing % of the bottom 6 as man the amount of chances they get (via secondary rebound or net drive) and miss or over skate is mindboggling

Engvall especially

Like if he and Kerfoot could finish watch out league
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 55
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Anyone know why Gaudette hasn't gotten called up yet? When they signed him everyone though they were planning to use him as a 4th line centre, but he hasn't even been called up yet. Am I missing something or is everyone else wondering the same thing?


It’s cause he’s not good
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23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 8
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Honestly I like Timmins but these past few games hes been awful at clearing the puck out of the zone and his giveaways have become a bit to costly

Feel he should be the #7 when Brodie returns
23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 14
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Samsonov big brain move

What an assist

Also happy to see Jarnkrok heating up
23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 29
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Bunting Penalty shot

This games just been weird lul
 
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