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Extending the Rebuild

Créé par: Lancebmx
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 9 déc. 2022
Publié: 9 déc. 2022
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Obviously not realistic as I don't think Yzerman after the offseason they had want to extend the rebuild any further and would rather try to stay competitive.

I actually hope the extend Bertuzzi and Maatta.

Forgot to mention that Bertuzzi agrees to an extension in New Jersey.
All trades other than the Boeser trade are at the deadline.

Even though many of the players in IR will be healthy I'm just making the line up with them still out.
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DET
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor
  3. Walsh, Reilly
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Johnsson for cap purposes so Detroit doesn't have to retain.
This might likely be too much but I would like to see Walsh get a chance in the NHL and I just don't think that would happen in Jersey.
The first is late and I feel like Jersey could actually make some noise in the playoffs.
NJD
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
  2. Oesterle, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
Bertuzzi doesn't take anymore shots in his hand and returns to the form he had last season.
Oesterle is just a throw in to give the Devils some extra depth on defence for the playoffs.
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  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Detroit takes a chance on JP for a reclamation project, he resigns.
EDM
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Määttä, Olli (1 125 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Acquiring Kubalik gives Edmonton some better scoring depth.
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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  1. Sundqvist, Oskar
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
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  1. Boeser, Brock
Détails additionnels:
Trade made in December.
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  1. Suter, Pius
  2. Tuomisto, Antti [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Suter to be traded at deadline or retained to fill 3C role, possibly fill the void of Horvat doesn't return.
Tuomisto is a nice RHD prospect that is playing good hockey in Europe right now, not flashy but plays a good game.
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9 déc. 2022 à 18 h 50
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Intriguing Boeser trade.
9 déc. 2022 à 18 h 52
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9 déc. 2022 à 18 h 55
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The difference between Shango and Bertuzzi is not a 1st+decent prospect.
Tintin, KDev, IDKtbh and 2 others a aimé ceci.
9 déc. 2022 à 18 h 59
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Suter isnt what he used to be. That offer probably gets beat
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9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 0
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Devils are very unlikely to trade for rentals, way too early in their competitive cycle to do that.
Besides, Sharangovich will have an important role to play in this Devils team for many years to come.
There's no real fit for the Devils in making this trade, and the value favours Detroit quite a lot.
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9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 2
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No


Valuable insight in your response.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 3
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Suter isnt what he used to be. That offer probably gets beat


Suter was our 2C last year and put up decent numbers.

This year with our depth, He's playing on the 4th line. So there's a big difference there.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 6
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A little heavy on the Bertuzzi deal.

Puljujarvi, I loved at the draft, he’s turned into an anomaly of sorts. I would imagine a change of scenery for him could not possibly be a bad thing.

I think we could get a 2nd for Sunny without giving up a pick w him.

Not sure how I feel about Boeser. The compensation is fine but, he’s just too streaky of a player for my taste. I wouldn’t hate the deal tho, especially after having moved Bert and Vrana potentially still in flux.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Valuable insight in your response.


Sharangovich is playing fine and don’t want to give a first for a rental
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 10
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The difference between Shango and Bertuzzi is not a 1st+decent prospect.


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Devils are very unlikely to trade for rentals, way too early in their competitive cycle to do that.
Besides, Sharangovich will have an important role to play in this Devils team for many years to come.
There's no real fit for the Devils in making this trade, and the value favours Detroit quite a lot.


I felt like I was reaching quite a bit with that one. Also I forgot to note in the trade but did in the description that an extension would be agreed upon. I wouldn't be opposed to leaving Sharangovich out and possibly replacing him with Haula, not sure if that would be a fit. The idea was more to include a roster player in the package to make room for Bertuzzi. I also don't know much about Sharangovich and what he brings so I might have undervalued him as well. Who could be a roster player other than Johnsson that could possibly be included or would it be better to just take Walsh right out?
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 12
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
Sharangovich is playing fine and don’t want to give a first for a rental


No knock on Sharangovich just wanted to include a younger roster player and Bertuzzi comes with an extension as stated in the description.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 21
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A little heavy on the Bertuzzi deal.

Puljujarvi, I loved at the draft, he’s turned into an anomaly of sorts. I would imagine a change of scenery for him could not possibly be a bad thing.

I think we could get a 2nd for Sunny without giving up a pick w him.

Not sure how I feel about Boeser. The compensation is fine but, he’s just too streaky of a player for my taste. I wouldn’t hate the deal tho, especially after having moved Bert and Vrana potentially still in flux.


I would be willing to take a chance on Boeser and I'm actually not really that much of a fan of his. In this scenario Detroit is extending the rebuild slightly so if he doesn't work out his contract will expire with Fabbri's and we can go from there.
On Sunny I didn't want to reach to far, I felt a third is good value but since Calgary doesn't have a third for next year and a second is just worth that much more I felt like sending an extra fourth back for next year.
JP is low risk high reward in my opinion.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I would be willing to take a chance on Boeser and I'm actually not really that much of a fan of his. In this scenario Detroit is extending the rebuild slightly so if he doesn't work out his contract will expire with Fabbri's and we can go from there.
On Sunny I didn't want to reach to far, I felt a third is good value but since Calgary doesn't have a third for next year and a second is just worth that much more I felt like sending an extra fourth back for next year.
JP is low risk high reward in my opinion.

Look at the Calle Yarnkrok deal from last year, I believe it was Calgary as well. They gave up 3 picks, like a 2nd, 3rd & a 4th or something. He’s not much better if at all than Sundqvist.
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Look at the Calle Yarnkrok deal from last year, I believe it was Calgary as well. They gave up 3 picks, like a 2nd, 3rd & a 4th or something. He’s not much better if at all than Sundqvist.


I don't disagree at all, I was just trying to not be overly ambitious, at least not with this one.
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 37
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Hronek leads the Maatta pair and Oesterle has no value at all
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 43
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Hronek leads the Maatta pair and Oesterle has no value at all


Yes I know
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Yes I know


Why would either team want them then?
9 déc. 2022 à 19 h 59
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Take out Yegor and Oesterle I think it’s fine.
9 déc. 2022 à 20 h 4
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Why would either team want them then?


Well pretty much every playoff team loads up on depth d at the deadline. Maatta gives Edmonton a little bit of flexibility and the ability to play Kulak or Maatta on the third pairing. He is an upgrade over Murray and also has a bunch of playoff experience.
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Quoting: TheeDjeeEem
Why would either team want them then?


Nobody wants Oesterle, he may be worth a 5th or 6th rounder but Maatta will be in extremely high demand come the trade deadline. It wouldn’t shock me to see him go for a 1st and no less than a 2nd rounder at the deadline. He has easily been our most steady defender this season and it’s not close.
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Take out Yegor and Oesterle I think it’s fine.


Would the devils need to move another roster player to make room for him? I was hoping to acquire a younger NHL forward in the deal but I could live without Sharangovich.
9 déc. 2022 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Suter was our 2C last year and put up decent numbers.

This year with our depth, He's playing on the 4th line. So there's a big difference there.


Canucks arent looking for an underszed 4c, big righty 3C could be a possiblility though
9 déc. 2022 à 20 h 53
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Canucks arent looking for an underszed 4c, big righty 3C could be a possiblility though


Yes he is so small.
10 déc. 2022 à 4 h 2
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I felt like I was reaching quite a bit with that one. Also I forgot to note in the trade but did in the description that an extension would be agreed upon. I wouldn't be opposed to leaving Sharangovich out and possibly replacing him with Haula, not sure if that would be a fit. The idea was more to include a roster player in the package to make room for Bertuzzi. I also don't know much about Sharangovich and what he brings so I might have undervalued him as well. Who could be a roster player other than Johnsson that could possibly be included or would it be better to just take Walsh right out?


I don't think there's any shape of a Bertuzzi trade that works for the Devils.
Noted on the extension, that could resolve the 'not-trading-for-rentals' bit.
But I think trading for a guy like Bertuzzi is the wrong approach for the Devils (and I think management feels similarly) extension or not, as it would mean the Devils would have to part with either 1st rd picks or non-UFA roster forwards to make it work which in turn would make the Devils older and shorten their competitive window.
There's no need for the Devils to trade for a top 6 wing at this point in time, say nothing of when Palat (and Bastian) returns from injury.
And in the off-season there's nothing stopping them to gauge the FA market for any holes in their forward lineup (Kuzmenko, Bunting, Tarasenko etc) while keeping all the assets they'd have to give in a Bertuzzi trade.

It just doesn't make sense for the Devils to trade for Bert, I really hope they don't.
10 déc. 2022 à 5 h 48
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
Sharangovich is playing fine and don’t want to give a first for a rental


How about Holtz insteaad of Sharangovich?
 
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