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Créé par: BeautifulIdiot
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 3 nov. 2022
Publié: 8 nov. 2022
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its over, we arent making the playoffs.
if the bar is 95 points and we only have 9 points 12 games in we would have to go .81p% thats a 100 point pace. That is not happening. So lets burn it to the ground

JTM trade:
"When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires." - https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

as Miller's current contract would expire, his next one would be on the TML books for next season

Pearson trade:
At this point Pearson does not have much value but is still not a cap dump, I think that the 4th is fair value, or maybe we just get future considerations for him

Brock Trade:
People will say that he is injury prone, I rant about this in the trade itself but he is just unlucky, he had an injury from a door that hit his back, if he had back problems, that would be injury prone, but if he has gotten unlucky I think that he is fine and should not be considered a risk. Kupari has not really launched as he was expected to, Grans is stuck behind Doughty, Roy, Durzi, Walker, Clarke, and Spence, hes too far down the depth chart that it makes more sense to trade him as opposed to keep him. Canucks would probably have to take some bad salary back as well or LAK could move someone out.

Dermott trade:
Make room for Rathbone, he needs a long run up with the big boys

Schenn trade:
I love schenn, but he is an expiring UFA and we can always resign him, he means a lot to the locker room and he is a very good defenceman when he is put in the right position. Some will say that schenn wont be traded but I think we should, we should take on bad cap and allow schenn to make a cup run because we owe that to him, he has won it twice and a team would trade for him for his defencive capabilies and his presence in the locker room

Stilman trade:
I get why we got him, but at the same time I dont, seems like he was a facade covering up the fact we were paying to get rid of Dickinson

Myers trade:
He is a good defender, he can help your team and he is probably our best PK defender, he would be a #4 on a contender, hes our #3 but with retained salary hes a good get. Another option would be to wait until July 1 to trade him because he will only be owed 1M and have a cap hit of 6m, the perfect mix for a team looking to get to the cap floor and not wanting to spend money
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Essentially getting him for a playoff run with this contract retained, and then resigning him in the offseason at his value, keep in mind that this is a reasonable price to pay for a LW,C who plays in all situations and was once a 99 point scorer, probably good for 70-75 points in a given year for the next 5 years after this one
TOR
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
they get a middle 6 guy who can play all situations, has stanley cup pedigree, on a reasonable deal we get out of the cap space
3.
VAN
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Kupari, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
Some have questions about brock's health, he is not injury prone, he had his stitches come out and they took him off as a precautionary measure, hes ok. nucks might have to take back some bad money, this is a TDL deal and assuming boeser is at a 30 goal pace on the season
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Same type of trade as pearson except for the roster spot, hes a low cap hit that we have more coming up and we need that spot and hes easier to trade than OEL
5.
VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Schenn, Luke (425 000 $ retained)
6.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
any team
7.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Laugh all you want, Myers has been our best defencive defenceman, at 4m that is market value or might even be better, if you dont think that is market look no further than Gudbranson
DAL
  1. Myers, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $67 746 250 $1 250 000 $2 515 000 $14 753 750 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
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883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 4
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Millers extended
8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 6
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i think bro forgot miller got extended
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 8
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Miller's contract isn't going anywhere, its all Vancouvers.
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 10
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
Millers extended


Quoting: dickie_boon
i think bro forgot miller got extended


He didn't forget, he's expecting Toronto to take on that contract and give up a young RD which is a position of need while at it.
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 12
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Don't want Boeser, bad skater. Doesn't fit the new fast paced Kings.
8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 18
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He didn't forget, he's expecting Toronto to take on that contract and give up a young RD which is a position of need while at it.


bro he literally said "then resigning him in the offseason at his value"
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 26
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Don't want Boeser, bad skater. Doesn't fit the new fast paced Kings.


And Kopitar does? He's the slowest player in the league
8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 27
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Yeah Miller's contract is a landmine, no thanks. Also Schenn for Kerfoot and a 2nd is the absolute most hilarious Schenn take I have seen.
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 29
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And Kopitar does? He's the slowest player in the league


He's really not. Kopitar is a much better skater than Boeser is.
8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 31
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He's really not. Kopitar is a much better skater than Boeser is.


I am not sure you have ever actually watched hockey. Boeser isn't as explosive as he should be but he's definitely way better at skating than Kopitar is. I doubt there is a single player slower than Kopitar.
8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: dickie_boon
bro he literally said "then resigning him in the offseason at his value"


Guess he did forget lol, I didn't read the trade description but he said this in the description:

"as Miller's current contract would expire, his next one would be on the TML books for next season"

Guess by the end of the general description, he forgot Miller had an extension.

Edit: I think he's saying that it's as if he got signed for 7.328m*8 if you combine the retained contract with the other.
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8 nov. 2022 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
I am not sure you have ever actually watched hockey. Boeser isn't as explosive as he should be but he's definitely way better at skating than Kopitar is. I doubt there is a single player slower than Kopitar.


He might look slow because he's such a big guy, but he regularly blows by defenders on offense and often catches forwards from behind coming back on defense. That's why he's a perennial Selke candidate.



Even if he's not the fastest guy in the league, he's still a very good skater.
8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 10
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He might look slow because he's such a big guy, but he regularly blows by defenders on offense and often catches forwards from behind coming back on defense. That's why he's a perennial Selke candidate.



Even if he's not the fastest guy in the league, he's still a very good skater.


He's so so so slow. Using a clip from a decade ago. When was Hamerlyk still a player lol. Went deep to find a clip of him looking fast eh?
8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 11
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He might look slow because he's such a big guy, but he regularly blows by defenders on offense and often catches forwards from behind coming back on defense. That's why he's a perennial Selke candidate.



Even if he's not the fastest guy in the league, he's still a very good skater.


Like come on man, Hamrlik was last in Montreal in 2011. That's ridiculous
8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 18
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Would much rather have Liljegren than JT Miller, especially considering Miller's contract. It's simply too long, I think Canucks are stuck with him until the last year or two.
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8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 22
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frigg off mr lahey we're not giving you liljegren for that contract
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8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 36
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Like come on man, Hamrlik was last in Montreal in 2011. That's ridiculous


It was the first video I could find in like 30 seconds of searching. There's plenty of examples if you want to look them up.

I know how good of a skater Kopitar is, I don't need convincing.
8 nov. 2022 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
It was the first video I could find in like 30 seconds of searching. There's plenty of examples if you want to look them up.

I know how good of a skater Kopitar is, I don't need convincing.


Slow as mud
8 nov. 2022 à 21 h 37
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So bad for the Leafs.. Miller and his contract and Schenn for Kerfoot, Liljegren and 1st and 2nd. Gee the Leaf might not be any better this season with the trade, never mind picking up a 30 year old, 8 year contract and giving up a 1st and 2nd.
9 nov. 2022 à 3 h 36
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Remember when Nucks fans wanted a top prospect and 2 firsts for Miller?? LOL good luck getting anyone to even give up a 1st and a B prospect for that contract
9 nov. 2022 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
It was the first video I could find in like 30 seconds of searching. There's plenty of examples if you want to look them up.

I know how good of a skater Kopitar is, I don't need convincing.


Even if Kopitar was one of the slowest skaters in the league, he is exactly the type you make an exception for. He has been one of the best 2-way centers in the league for 15 years
 
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