Colorado adds, considerably. Compher does not have a desirable contract in a flat-cap world. You'll have to add some picks.

neither team does this

Could maybe put in Colorado's first and get their worst second back, that's saying if they are even interested in moving him.

Why would buffalo ever do this?

I'll trade mittelstadt, but this does nothing for us

avs arena burning picks on Mittelstadt in his scenario of "a change of scenery" at the deadline to act as competition for a 2C job. It makes 0 sense. If they move Mittelstadt, there is no way he is even playing at a 3C level, so what makes it seem he would have a chance to be a 2C on a cup contender? Also goign into the playoffs Compher is one of the most clutch playoff fwds the avs had.

Why would they burn draft picks to move the proven playoff guy on a reclaim experiment?

He'd also an expiring UFA so doesnt help buffalo

idk i didnt make the post

get that, but it makes 0 sense, it doest help the avs

well it doesn't help buffalo either, so i guess we're on the same page.

my first comment was both teams dont do it

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Compher doesn't have to be in the trade, I know Colorado would want to keep him, and just add someone. On the other hand, I don't see why Buffalo would just trade Mittelstadt for futures if they are a playoff team.

Why would Buffalo want Compher?
1) To replace Mittelstadt in the line up
2) He brings playoff experience to the team, it doesn't matter that he's a ufa.
3) The intrinsic value in the trade for Buffalo would be getting Compher for the run, the trade value is going to come from the picks.

Why would Colorado "burn" picks?
1) They won't be burning picks although they might be losing value if it doesn't work out. They could move the 2023 1st for a 2023 2nd + 4th (or for the two 2nds picks while adding a 2025 pick) for example. It really depends on how much Mittelstadt's value is going to be. Colorado can use the trade to increase their draft capital in the 2023 draft, and if more is required they give 2025 picks.
2) The trade is assuming that Colorado sees value in adding Mittelstadt for his skill set and potentially filling the 2C role. With his cap hit being 2.5 for the next 2 years, and him being an RFA.

if he needs a change of scenery...the avs indeed would not be interested in him and his 2.5m cap hit.
he wont be a 2c level of play if he is traded and he wont be put in a 2c role going into the playoffs for ac up contender

this is an easy easy decline for them, they arent playing 2C experiments going for their 2nd cup

I'm not saying he would immediately be the 2C, if he's a guy putting up 50pts, he can be an okay 3C. He's a former 8th overall pick, him needing a change of scenery doesn't necessarily mean that he's a bad player just that he's not living up to his full potential. Buffalo has a lot of young guys, I don't think they miss him.

Sabres need a RD not sure why they swap a F for a F. They can replace Mitts internally

Casey Mittelstadt > > > > > J. T. Compher talking about nowhere close to value.

It's not a 1 for 1...

Since the Colorado picks will be late. You'd probably need to add both a 1st and 2nd round pick for Mittelstadt at the very least on top of Compher.

Fair enough. The reason I thought of Compher going to Buffalo was for the playoff experience he brings. I would imagine the internal replacements like Krebs for example would take the spot the following year unless they really liked what he brought.

Perhaps, Buffalo would prefer to just trade him for a RD though if they do plan to move him.

I was thinking Colorado would give their 2023 1st and get one of Buffalo's 2023 2nds and maybe 2023 4th, and then add more from the 2025 draft

COL adds here as Compher isn’t a piece of interest to them as an upcoming UFA at seasons end

There's no doubt that they would be adding, the question would be how much, but more importantly would Colorado even be willing to part ways with Compher in favor of Mittlestadt? Would they just target a high profile rental C instead?

If COL makes a move, it’ll be for a top 6F with much greater impact/value than Mittelstadt. COL just shipped out Jost as they ran out of patience with him and Mittelstadt seems like another “project”.

I’m not a big Compher fan, but I’ll admit, he’d have a bigger impact in a playoff run that Mittelstadt.

IF I WAS FORCED TO TRADE FOR MITTELSTADT, would probably cost COL a 2nd (which they don’t have) and a prospect like Foudy or Meyers or Beaucage.

Yeah, that's why I was thinking they could give up their 1st and trade back for one of Buffalo's 2023 2nds+a 4th or something like that.

Good point that they might not want to deal with another project player, but I was thinking that he's producing enough to be a solid 3rd liner, the project would be getting him or Newhook becoming the 2C. Do you think they would perhaps just keep Compher and trade Newhook instead? I personally don't see that one happening since Newhook will probably cost less to resign but let me know what you think.