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Sens still pushing for Chych but dont want to trade Pinto

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 3 oct. 2022
Publié: 3 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Pinto, Shane
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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Sens don't want to move Pinto but in doing so, they can maybe get Chych for less than the asking price of 1st, Prospect and Active player.
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OTT
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
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3 oct. 2022 à 13 h 36
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Chychrun can’t really play his off side, and the sens shouldn’t trade Pinto for him anyway.
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3 oct. 2022 à 13 h 41
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Pinto is worth more than Chychrun and then trading for Drouin would be a huge downgrade for the third line.

Not a good idea for either trade.
Quoting: Isles5513
Chychrun can’t really play his off side, and the sens shouldn’t trade Pinto for him anyway.


Where is it said that he doesn't play well on the RD? I haven't heard this anywhere, and with Chabot and Sanderson at LD if this was true, then there would be no way the Sens would have been shwing interest in the first place. If OTT trades for him it is ONLY to play RD.
3 oct. 2022 à 13 h 43
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Quoting: NDoody
Pinto is worth more than Chychrun and then trading for Drouin would be a huge downgrade for the third line.

Not a good idea for either trade.


Where is it said that he doesn't play well on the RD? I haven't heard this anywhere, and with Chabot and Sanderson at LD if this was true, then there would be no way the Sens would have been shwing interest in the first place. If OTT trades for him it is ONLY to play RD.


He hasn’t logged many minutes at RD. I’d check Jfresh tbh. I think he wrote something about it last week.
3 oct. 2022 à 13 h 52
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Completely understandable, Pinto has been playing well in Camp and they should look to keep him. If I'm AZ I would probably be fine settling for Greig as the main piece

Quoting: NDoody
Pinto is worth more than Chychrun and then trading for Drouin would be a huge downgrade for the third line.

Not a good idea for either trade.


Where is it said that he doesn't play well on the RD? I haven't heard this anywhere, and with Chabot and Sanderson at LD if this was true, then there would be no way the Sens would have been shwing interest in the first place. If OTT trades for him it is ONLY to play RD.

Im sorry but I disagree with almost everything you said here.
1. Pinto is certainly not worth more, that's like saying Pinto is worth as much or more than Chabot
2. If they acquire Chychrun he could certainly be playing on the left side this year. Especially if Brannstrom is involved. You run Zub, Hamonic, JAD/Holden down the right side and shelter Sanderson who almost certainly needs more time before jumping into a top 4 role on a bubble team
3 oct. 2022 à 14 h 14
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Habs scream, "no take backsies" before the Sens can renege on the deal!
3 oct. 2022 à 14 h 19
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Any deal involving Chychrun would have Zaitsev going the other way for salary reasons. Pinto isn't off the table, but I don't think Dorion is willing to trade him because he would lose his best amateur scout as well, who threatened to resign if they didn't snag Pinto in the 2nd round in 2019.

I think, if push came to shove, they'd be okay with giving up Greig in the package. However, I'm 100% sure they will just throw a bunch of prospects at ARI.

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Completely understandable, Pinto has been playing well in Camp and they should look to keep him. If I'm AZ I would probably be fine settling for Greig as the main piece

Im sorry but I disagree with almost everything you said here.
1. Pinto is certainly not worth more, that's like saying Pinto is worth as much or more than Chabot
2. If they acquire Chychrun he could certainly be playing on the left side this year. Especially if Brannstrom is involved. You run Zub, Hamonic, JAD/Holden down the right side and shelter Sanderson who almost certainly needs more time before jumping into a top 4 role on a bubble team


I'm in the same boat on positions.

Chabot-Zub
Chychrun-Hamonic
Sanderson-JBD/Holden
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3 oct. 2022 à 14 h 32
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I'm sure the Sens aren't really in on Chychrun unless they move out similar cap like Zaitsev. Being close to the cap with bonuses to pay...and a big raise for Stutzie and DeBrincat next season, I don't see the logic in Sens wanting an "expensive: Dman...
3 oct. 2022 à 14 h 51
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Pinto is a non starter .
3 oct. 2022 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Green4D4
Any deal involving Chychrun would have Zaitsev going the other way for salary reasons. Pinto isn't off the table, but I don't think Dorion is willing to trade him because he would lose his best amateur scout as well, who threatened to resign if they didn't snag Pinto in the 2nd round in 2019.

I think, if push came to shove, they'd be okay with giving up Greig in the package. However, I'm 100% sure they will just throw a bunch of prospects at ARI.



I'm in the same boat on positions.

Chabot-Zub
Chychrun-Hamonic
Sanderson-JBD/Holden


I think if JBD plays he will be mentored Chychrun and Harmonic will help mentor Sanderson. It's important to note that just because a player is on the "3rd pair" doesn't mean they cant play 20+ minutes a night. Sergachev is a great example of this. Martinez is also similar here
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3 oct. 2022 à 16 h 49
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Absolute troll post.
3 oct. 2022 à 20 h 28
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Sens don't want Drouin anywhere close their forward group. Not their type

Quoting: Green4D4
Pinto isn't off the table, but I don't think Dorion is willing to trade him because he would lose his best amateur scout as well, who threatened to resign if they didn't snag Pinto in the 2nd round in 2019.

I think, if push came to shove, they'd be okay with giving up Greig in the package. However, I'm 100% sure they will just throw a bunch of prospects at ARI.


Trent Mann is more than the Sens best scout, he has been the Director of Amateur Scouting during the whole rebuild and is now an Assistant General Manager

I think Pinto is completely off the table. But not only Pinto, but Greig as well.

Mann is extremely high on his own stuff, and rightfully so

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Completely understandable, Pinto has been playing well in Camp and they should look to keep him. If I'm AZ I would probably be fine settling for Greig as the main piece.


See above. Both are probably just NFT and this is not based on this training camp or any recent event. They are very very special prospects. We have seen them coming for a while. Mann and his scout(s) were the first
 
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