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Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 14 h 57

Sujet: Potential Ottawa Cat trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Take out Zaitsev and that is probably a slight overpay for Cat alone, depending on where that 2023 1st ends up. But with Murphy involved and the Zaitsev dump, I really think there needs to be one of JBD, Lassi, or Brannstrom involved. Also, I would probably prefer Formenton over Greig, if we are looking for someone to eventually become a top 6 winger. Yes, he will probably cost more in the short term but Davidson has said more than once that he wants to play a skill game with high end skaters. Greig can play at a high tempo and be quick in small bursts, but his skating overall is below average for NHL players. It's looking like he projects as a pesky checking bottom six forward, maybe 2nd line if he can work out some of the kinks with his skating.</div></div>

As a big DS9 fan... I agree with this post.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 22

Sujet: Potential Ottawa Cat trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I’d rather trade Formenton and keep Greig imo. Greig will be cheaper next few years and can be our 3C.</div></div>

We still have a few decent center prospects in the system (Ostapchuk, Lodin), but I agree.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 14

Sujet: Doing the impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>Thanks for the info. Do you think he's NHL ready this year or needs another season?</div></div>

A bit of up and down. Needs NHL reps for sure and a bit of man strength.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 10

Sujet: Debrincat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>If the devils offered the #2OA and Holtz as speculated, I'd probably do that over this offer. Why? Hawks need a franchise potential player in their top 6 as a return for Cat and while Greig may potentially reach his ultimate ceiling and become that, the odds are against him moreso then say a Logan Cooley or Alexander Holtz.</div></div>

Oh for sure! You take that and run!

I'd take Slafkovsky over Cooley though. Personal preference but centers do go higher in the draft. Slaf just reminds me of Hossa... ;(

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 7

Sujet: Potential Ottawa Cat trade

Oooooof.... 1 or the other on Greig and Pinto. Can't have both. That does solve... a lot of issues for Ottawa.

Ah man... I'd say yes.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 5

Sujet: Doing the impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>I've seen a fair number of the Garland-for-JBD+2nd trades and I'm not sure I like it as a VAN fan; can you give me a proper scouting report on JBD? For a "2-way" Dman his point totals aren't jumping off the page for a prospect.</div></div>

Two-Way is generous. He's a stay at home type of guy. Nothing flashy, just smart and safe. Perfect partner for a guy like Q. Hughes. We always thought he'd be a great fit for Chabot when he was ready. That was, of course, before the Zub.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 4

Sujet: Doing the impossible

I'd take back Tyler Johnson if you're including Murray in the deal.

That first line is scary...

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 12 h 2

Sujet: Debrincat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>I'm pretty sure the Hawks are going to be looking for a top offensive prospect or top left handed D man (must be 1st line projected) based on their needs and pipeline if they move Cat.</div></div>

If scorched earth approach (I mentioned this to you I believe yesterday?), a return like this is a pretty good one. Greig is our best two- way prospect in the system, might need a little time in the AHL to hone his craft... Thomson is our best RHD two- way d in our system and could jump into the lineup next year (hell of a cannon on the kid). If you want Brannstrom, I'd include him over Lassi any day.

I would include C. Brown half retained so Chicago could move him at the TDL for more assets.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 58

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>I would agree but it sounds like Debrincat is likely to get traded at this point and I just don't see them getting a blow your socks off kind of return. Teams don't like giving away the farm like that. Giving away the 7th pick and Greig is already a tough pill to swallow but definitely worth it for debrincat. Look at the return Eichel got</div></div>

Eichel situation was also an organizational mess from top to bottom. Eichel wasn't going to play without the surgery he wanted/needed. There were talks of terminating his contract and I don't blame Eichel at all for what he went through in Buffalo.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 56

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>Jokes aside it's no secret Montreal likes to acquire French-Canadian players. And I don't blame them, it's awesome when they do</div></div>

At the detriment to the on ice-play, yeah. What a strange in-house rule to have. Kind of like the in-house budgets we have in Ottawa. I'm glad they went with Kent Hughes. Dude seems to know his stuff when it comes to hockey.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 52

Sujet: Debrincat

Still need a top 4 D... maybe JBD the following year can sneak into Hamonics spot.

Forwards look great though.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 49

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs4ever</b></div><div>Valid point. I have seen those comments. I don’t ascribe to them and I know the French as super sensitive to language, so I just stay clear of that.</div></div>

To a certain extent. Some french speakers are a little bit more aggressive and proud of their french heritage and language. Which is their right... I meant no offense to the joke. I'll keep it to hockey from now on.

Source: I am a bilingual Franco-Ontarian.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 46

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>It's a hypothetical. What the hawks want and what they are offered could be two different things. Different scenario obviously but sens traded a top 5 RW in the league with an extension and got back Erik Brännström and a 2nd after a year of saying "other teams will offer something better"</div></div>

Different scenario. Stone was leaving regardless because he wanted to win. He was also a UFA.

Cat is an RFA, a legit 40 goal scorer and will be playing with Stu for years. Picks and prospects are picks and prospects. They are mystery boxes until they get that shot. I think Greig has the potential to be a Brad Marchand 2.0. I think Thomson is going to be a top 4 D man. That 7th overall is going to be a good hockey player... just not right now.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 38

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs4ever</b></div><div>Not implying that but a more respectful forum than other places. Your comment was inflammatory and not needed.</div></div>

Is it though?

Ottawa has been the butt end of cheap and money jokes for YEARS because of Melnyk. Let's all laugh a little once in a while.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 35

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>The main pieces of the deal are the 7th and Greig who is a really good prospect but Brannstrom still has some potential to be good. Doesn't hurt to throw him in</div></div>

The way I look at it, they need to recoup assets from the Jones deal.

The 7th overall, Greig, Thomson/JBD and an unprotected 1st next year is a good start. I would throw in Connor Brown at half retained if they want to move him at the TDL for more assets.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 33

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs4ever</b></div><div>Your comment about the reasons why Montreal is cheap and sad to see on capfriendly. Reddit has comments like that.</div></div>

Because CapFriendly is the pinnacle of internet comments.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 32

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>No one gets Sanderson but Zub</div></div>

Zub.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 22

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson</div></div>

Correct. That's why a trade to Ottawa is slim to none.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 20

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>What if White changed his name to "Blanc"?</div></div>

BAHAHAHAH!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 18

Sujet: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Usually most posts with this title lead to almost everyone saying no</div></div>

You're a prophet Canaiac555!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 11 h 17

Sujet: Who says no

Florida definitely says no.

Arizona says give us a higher picks.

MTL says not French enough.

Chicago asks for Sanderson.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 10 h 47

Sujet: Risk reward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zadinaveleno</b></div><div>Incorrect...

Yzerman grew up in Nepean, but he's from Cranbrook BC</div></div>

Nepean is in Ottawa.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 10 h 25

Sujet: Bear gone

That is a lot of money for a 3rd pairing pylon-defenseman hybrid that occasionally hits people.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 9 h 56

Sujet: Risk reward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zadinaveleno</b></div><div>Please stop comparing Detroit to Ottawa.</div></div>

Steve Yzerman is from Ottawa.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 9 h 55

Sujet: Risk reward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zadinaveleno</b></div><div>Please stop comparing Detroit to Ottawa.</div></div>

They are both bad right now. :)

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