Not enough from Edmonton’s perspective. I get that the jackets just traded Bjorkstrand for a bag of pucks. I’ve been there with the Toews trade and as a fan it sucks. But even Ken Holland isn’t stupid enough to accept this offer.

I mean, they're in the same tough cap situation so I dunno if they can call the shots on what Puljujarvi will get as a return. $3.4M left in cap space and they still need to sign Yamamoto, Mcleod and they should be adding another 2 depth guys for a full 23 man roster. Even if they all cost league minimum they'd have $400K left and Yamamoto definitely is getting more than minimum.

It seems more likely they find a way to move Barrie or dump Foegele before they trade Puljujvari for a bag of blue pucks.

I don’t c why Edmonton would make the same mistake Davidson made with Bjorkstrand in a deal with Columbus.

Davidson doesn’t have the best track record given some of the moves the rangers made when he was President. And his successor Chris Drury traded Buchnevich for a bag of blue pucks.

You edited and I still have no idea what you’re talking about.

Yeah I’m overtired lol

I just rewrote the whole thing tbh. Basically I was trying to say that Chris Drury made the same mistakes during the 2021off season that Davidson made in 2022. Obviously that makes sense considering Davidson used to be with the rangers.

That being said this is all eerily similar to his tenure in NY. He signs an superstar left wing. His center situation is unsettled rn. He trades a high end winger for a bag of blue pucks. And then signs a defenseman to a terrible contract.

Like the Buchnevich and Bjorkstrand deals r basically the same trade. The Nemeth and Gudbranson signings are basically the same deal. That’s all.

How can you say they drafted "incredibly poorly" when the 2 draft classes he was there for haven't had nearly enough time to pan out?

Also, how was Bjorkstrand a fleece? The only rumour that has come out so far is that Voracek would have cost a 1st and an A prospect to dump. Trading Bjorkstrand instead saved them those assets and got them a couple picks. Sounds like a damn good decision. Also, literally no other staff has completed a trade with this ruthless of a trade market for cap dumps yet. There are maybe 4 or 5 teams they could have dealt with and that's not considering how many have been on Bjorkstrand's 10 team no trade list. I'm going to wait to judge how they did until someone else finally completes a cap dump trade.

I said he drafted poorly in NY

He traded Bjorkstrand for garbage. Again I’ve been there with Toews. I’m not trying to go at ur favorite team.

Yeah, the 2019 and 2020 drafts have had 3 and 2 seasons so far to develop and they've only had 1 normal year of hockey since those drafts. How do you judge any team as having drafted poorly in that short of a time with significantly abnormal development circumstances? Only 15 players have 50+ NHL games played from the 2019 class and only 8 from the 2020 draft. Hell, he may not have even had much input in the 2019 draft since he was only in his position for a little over a month before the draft.

They have no replacement for Barrie and Foegele will require a 2nd and 3rd like Kassian did to be moved.

I think Edmonton takes a nothing prospect in place of a 3rd round pick to save face.

My point is that you can't judge the trade without the context of what the options were. If teams wanted their 2023 1st and Kent Johnson to take Voracek as a cap dump, how do you even consider that? There's just no way to judge the Bjorkstrand trade until either another team has to make a similar decision to get cap compliant or we get a concrete idea of what the other options they had on the table were. Of course the Bjorkstrand return sucks, but at the end of the day it was the cost of getting Gaudreau who is MILES better.

Nemeth was also signed after Davidson was already gone and so was the Buchnevich trade. Drury made his decisions and they had nothing to do with Davidson. Davidson also isn't a GM so I don't get why he's on trial here to begin with.

Maybe the player doesn't, but the cap sure does

IK Davidson wasn’t there for Nemeth or Buchnevich. Just saying the moves r very similar lol.

Signing Gudbranson is pretty similar lol

I really like the addition of pulju. I think it adds alittle bit of size and 2 way play. Plus he’s young enough to grow with our group.

why are we adding more forwards to a roster of too many forwards

I say a swap of Bemstrom and maybe a 4/5th round pick would work fine. Lets us send chinny and Kent to Cleveland to develop for this whole year.

Really like these forward lines. All those lines can score and play defense well minus maybe the first but they'll hopefully score more than they give up. Pairing Marchenko with Voracek seems like a slam dunk idea, and then have boone there to help out on the defensive side, perfect line IMO. Defensive pairs can go anywhere, no idea what is going to happen minus Werenski as the 1 LD and then Gavi 2 LD with MAYBE Boqvist as his partner cause they should gel well.

Having Puljujärvi lets both Kent and Chinny light up the AHL this season and then next year ball out on the main squad hopefully.

Updated with this suggestion.

Because it's an incredibly cheap investment for a player who has a similar effect to Gaudreau on the lineup. He pushes Voracek and Nyquist further down the depth chart where they can have easier match ups and hopefully better 5v5 performance. Even with how many points each of them scored, they both had abysmal corsi, fenwick, 5v5 points/60 and zone time results. One of the best ways for the team to improve defensively would be to limit their ice time and bring in players that can drive offense and maintain offensive pressure. Puljujarvi did these things plenty in Edmonton and for the low price paid they can find out if he's capable of doing it on another team and are free of him after just 1 year if it doesn't work out.

I'm well aware of Puljujarvi's quality and under other circumstances I'd gleefully take him. But this takes us far too close to the cap (there's pretty much no room for injury issues). And Bemstrom is still IMO not someone you should just toss.

You keep saying they need to keep space for injury issues. That's why they have 3 scratches. Getting a clearly superior player is also not tossing Bemstrom away.