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Créé par: Stadel

Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo

Date de création initiale: 31 mai 2022

Publié: 31 mai 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Ive made plenty of posts and teams stating ownership wont spend (which i believe to be true) but I really believe in the potential the team has and think hockey ops should try and convince them to spend just a wee bit more than they plan.

With the right analytics backed move (they have two of the smartest guys working for them) they can have a great year.

Going from Miller, Jokiharju and Fitzgerald to Zub, Carlo (I admit totally guessing value here but Ive seen there names pop up so what the heck), Kulak on the right side alone without giving up one of the better young players on the squad is massive. Should compliment the vastly improved goaltending.

And just for fun, add an under-appreciated first line talent. Sabres become a playoff threat and everybody eats bread.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka		1	850 000 $
Mangiapane, Andrew		5	6 250 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Comrie, Eric	2	1 750 000 $
DeSmith, Casey	2	3 000 000 $
Kulak, Brett	3	3 500 000 $
Sturm, Nico	3	2 250 000 $
Pysyk, Mark	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

BUF

Zub, Artem

Détails additionnels:

Zub signs 4 year 3.5-4 mil/yr extension

CGY

Jokiharju, Henri
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (BUF)

BUF

Dickinson, Jason
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)

VAN

Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (BUF)

Rachats de contrats

Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	64 885 000 $	0 $	3 120 000 $	17 615 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 5	Thompson, Tage 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C UFA - 1	Tuch, Alex 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Peterka, John-Jason 855 833 $855 833 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 3	Cozens, Dylan 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AG UFA - 1	Mangiapane, Andrew 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Asplund, Rasmus 825 000 $825 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1	Sturm, Nico 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ C UFA - 3	Quinn, Jack 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3
Girgensons, Zemgus 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton 863 333 $863 333 $ (412 500 $$412K) C, AG RFA - 2	Okposo, Kyle 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Bjork, Anders 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dahlin, Rasmus 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Zub, Artem 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Power, Owen 916 667 $916 667 $ (925 000 $$925K) DG/DD UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Comrie, Eric 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G UFA - 2
Samuelsson, Mattias 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Kulak, Brett 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4
	Pysyk, Mark 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1

31 mai 2022 à 0 h 58

Dekes

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more like krebs or cozens for carlo

31 mai 2022 à 0 h 59

Stadel

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Quoting: Dekes

more like krebs or cozens for carlo

I actually considered Krebs but, wouldn't that signal a rebuild for B's? You'd be betting everything on potential.

31 mai 2022 à 1 h 8

csick

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That’s not enough for Zub or Carlo

31 mai 2022 à 1 h 8

Stadel

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Quoting: csick

That’s not enough for Zub or Carlo

What would I have to add for either?

The carlo bit is surprising btw, there was a rash of ACGM teams where bruins fans were trying to get rid of him.

31 mai 2022 à 1 h 45

Alfie11

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don’t think zub is getting moved (if anything we need another guy like zub ourselves), and if he was it would be for a helluva lot more than that.

i also doubt mangiapane gets moved, but it would have to be jokiharju + your 1st (9oa) to even get the conversation started, might even need more

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

31 mai 2022 à 4 h 8

Ledge_And_Dairy

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No Chance Calgary does that, maybe if it was #9 instead

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

31 mai 2022 à 7 h 25

RoyalBlueSabres

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

No Chance Calgary does that, maybe if it was #9 instead

Feels a bit greedy for a 2nd line guy.

31 mai 2022 à 7 h 46

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres

Feels a bit greedy for a 2nd line guy.

23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim

gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.

31 mai 2022 à 9 h 27

yztnuK

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Vancouver declines - without a doubt

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 32

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Dekes

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Quoting: Stadel

I actually considered Krebs but, wouldn't that signal a rebuild for B's? You'd be betting everything on potential.

not necessarily, Krebs could potentially play 2C for us, Having Hall and Pasta would surely speed up his development. Plus Carlo had a bit of a down year so i doubt boston sells low on him unless they are getting a young nhl C or C prospect that has 1-2C potential like krebs and cozens

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 35

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Stadel

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim

I fully agree, but I priced the deal at the cost of an offer sheet, cause assuming they sign tk and jg it’s a real possibility. I’ll probably change the picks a bit but I bet If he’s dealt it’s for a lot less than 9th overall

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 36

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Stadel

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Quoting: Dekes

Why do other bruins fans want rid of him for so much less? Mostly curious

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 37

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Quoting: yztnuK

Vancouver declines - without a doubt

Doing them a favour the picks are lottery tickets.

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 38

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Stadel

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Quoting: Alfie11

Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 41

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Stadel

He will 100% file for arbitration like ever RFA with arb rights does. Then there is zero offer sheet threat

Stadel a aimé ceci.

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 49

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Stadel

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

He will 100% file for arbitration like ever RFA with arb rights does. Then there is zero offer sheet threat

Fair enough

31 mai 2022 à 10 h 59

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Dekes

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Quoting: Stadel

Why do other bruins fans want rid of him for so much less? Mostly curious

just being stupid because B's didn't go all the way i guess? For me if Bergeron retires everyone but Mcavoy and Swayman are untouchable, every player has a price even Pasta but you gotta expect to give up a lot because they won't come cheap.
Guys like Carlo/Pastrnak/Grzelcyk/ Debrusk could all bring in picks and prospects to really solidify our future and set us up for more cup runs later on. Even Marchand if he wanted to go compete for a cup and boston was in a rebuild I'd be okay with getting the haul we could get for him but again all the decisions heavily rely on what Bergy does

31 mai 2022 à 11 h 2

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Stadel

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Quoting: Dekes

Yeah i figured it was reactionary but I was curious nonetheless, thanks for the input! What about Clifton?

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31 mai 2022 à 11 h 18

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Hii

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Quoting: Stadel

Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space

That's not a great answer, Zub is one of the top two way D in the league and he is a perfect compliment to Sanderson or Chabot. Maybe if you threw in the Vegas pick then there would be a bit more of a discussion.

He also signs that contract with Ottawa and probably gets more anyway.

He is also 99% not available. You could get him for the right price but it would have to be a lot.

31 mai 2022 à 14 h 22

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RoyalBlueSabres

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim

That's all good, if I'm giving up #9 then that's all I'm giving. I would not add joki.
And in all honesty, if there was more push back I would just wait and offer sheet him and bank on next year being better than #9

31 mai 2022 à 17 h 28

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Dekes

Dekesaladekes

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Quoting: Stadel

Yeah i figured it was reactionary but I was curious nonetheless, thanks for the input! What about Clifton?

clifton probably like a 4th maybe a 3rd if it was TD

31 mai 2022 à 17 h 42

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Alfie11

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Quoting: Stadel

Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space

Dorion’s not that dumb lol, no GM is gonna give up a guy they want to keep at a position of need for a pathetic offer. And the Flames can make it work, and even if they did decide to trade Mang it would be for a LOT more than that

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