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Columbus Blockbuster

Créé par: Dekes
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2022
Publié: 28 mai 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Explications
B's prospect rankings Post draft
1. Fabian Lysell
2. Cutter Gauthier 6OA
3. Brad Lambert 12OA
4. Mason Lohrei
5. Brett Harrison
6. Sam Rinzel 63OA
7. Ty Gallagher
8. Oscar Jellvik
9. John Beecher
10. Ryan Mast
I would assume this would put boston in the top 12-15 area for prospect pools

Columbus Trade Breakdown:
Columbus
1. Gains another player capable of scoring 40+ goals, solidifies top 6 winger corp
2. top 4 defensive minded dman to pair up with werenski, gives CBJ a solid top pair
3. Still has solid C core with Jenner/Sillinger/Texier/ Roslovic/ Kuraly
Boston
1. Gains a potential top line center for the future
2. Draft capital allows B's to build up their prospect core
3. B's gain cap space and become a much younger faster squad
4. Boqvist could become that Krug like PP1 QB for us though Mcavoy has been very solid for us in that spot i think i would prefer a Dman with a stronger shot and more offensive creativity running the PP1 spot
I do think Columbus might be slightly Overpaying but Boston is giving them 2 players that are already developed and will make a large impact for their team where as boston is taking on ore young guys who still need a lot of refining to their game and potentially may not pan out.


other trades i won't breakdown as they are more straight forward and not so large

If columbus wanted to keep the 12OA pick id consider subbing in these options instead
Option 1 - Alexandre Texier
Option 2 - Boone Jenner + 22 3rd
Option 3- Andrew Peeke + 22 or 23 2nd
Option 4- Kirill Marchenko + 22 or 23 2nd


The one thing i want boston to improve dramatically over the off-season is getting Dmen who can generate more offence, Mcavoy and Lindholm are both solid 2 way dmen who both provide solid playdriving abilities, Mcavoy has his speed and Lindholm is a very good passer. With additions like Boqvist and Hague you get 2 very good shots from the blue line that B's have lacked since krug and chara left, Boqvist is a very fast skilled dman who will bring a krug like threat on the PP for us and i think will be an even better 5v5 producer for us.
Pasta also agrees to an extension pre-trade probably 8x 8-9 mill range
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Boqvist, Adam22 200 000 $
Vilardi, Gabriel21 300 000 $
Hague, Nicolas44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bergeron, Patrice11 500 000 $
Brown, Joshua2900 000 $
Lazar, Curtis21 100 000 $
Forsberg, Filip77 500 000 $
Burakovsky, André55 800 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Boqvist, Adam [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnson, Kent
  3. 2022 1e round pick (CHI)
  4. 2022 1e round pick (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
6OA- Bruins select one of
Cutter Gauthier
Jonathan Lekkerimaki
12OA- Boston selects one of
Brad Lambert
Connor Geekie
CBJ
  1. Pastrnak, David
  2. Carlo, Brandon
  3. 2022 3e round pick (CGY)
2.
BOS
  1. Dufour, William
  2. 2022 2e round pick (COL)
  3. 2023 2e round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Grzelcyk, Matt
  2. 2023 4e round pick (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2023 3e round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Reilly, Mike
4.
BOS
  1. Hague, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
VGK
  1. Studnicka, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 2e round pick (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
  • Nick Foligno: 1 933 334 $
Enfoui
  • Chris Wagner: 225 000 $ (1 350 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
Logo de CHI
Logo de CBJ
Logo de COL
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de OTT
2023
Logo de BOS
Logo de NYI
Logo de BOS
Logo de LAK
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
2024
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 095 834 $0 $3 575 000 $2 404 166 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
1 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Burakovsky, André
5 800 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de BOS
Hall, Taylor
6 000 000 $
AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de CBJ
Johnson, Kent
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Forsberg, Filip
7 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 8
Vilardi, Gabriel
1 300 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Coyle, Charlie
5 250 000 $
C, AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de BOS
Smith, Craig
3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Nosek, Tomas
1 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Haula, Erik
2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Lazar, Curtis
1 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Hague, Nicolas
4 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Logo de BOS
Ullmark, Linus
5 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de BOS
Lindholm, Hampus
6 500 000 $
DG
NMC NTC
UFA - 8
Boqvist, Adam
2 200 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Forbort, Derek
3 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de BOS
Zboril, Jakub
1 137 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de BOS
Brown, Joshua
900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de BOS
Clifton, Connor
1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de BOS
Frederic, Trent
1 050 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Marchand, B.
Bergeron, P.
Burakovsky, A.
Forsberg, F.
Boqvist, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Hall, T.
Coyle, C.
Johnson, K.
Smith, C.
McAvoy, C.
Infériorité numérique 1
Haula, E.
Coyle, C.
Hague, N.
McAvoy, C.
Infériorité numérique 2
Marchand, B.
Bergeron, P.
Forbort, D.
Lindholm, H.

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28 mai à 14 h 30
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Jackets decline this they will just develop rather trade out of their rebuild
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28 mai à 14 h 32
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Boston has to accept this. I hate the idea of trading my two favorite players, pasta and Carlo, but if this is the return I wouldn't ever doubt Sweeney. If Bergeron comes back he could mentor Johnson and maybe the other two if they make the jump while he is still playing.
28 mai à 14 h 33
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Isles say no. They wouldn't pay more than 1 2nd never mind 2 2nds and one of their top prospects
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28 mai à 14 h 33
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Why would a rebuilding team make that trade exactly?
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28 mai à 14 h 35
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Absolutely no way the Jackets give up their whole future for one year of Pastrnak
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28 mai à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Leafsleaks123
Absolutely no way the Jackets give up their whole future for one year of Pastrnak


It says he has an extension.
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28 mai à 14 h 40
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Quoting: glarson17
Why would a rebuilding team make that trade exactly?


Quoting: Leafsleaks123
Absolutely no way the Jackets give up their whole future for one year of Pastrnak



1. Leafsleaks obviously you miss the point where i mention in the description Pastrnak agrees or signs an extension pre-trade

2. Glarson CBJ has a very solid roster and with Tex playing possibly all season and sillinger being more developed i would think this team could easily compete for a PO spot, Their wing corp with Pasta, Laine, Bjorkstrand and Voracek would be top 6 in the league and I think they would definitely bring the best out of young C's like sillinger and Tex.

also adding a top 10 winger in the league and a top 4 dman improves their roster greatly
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Quoting: messynews
It says he has an extension.


Why would he sign an extension in Columbus of all places before he even gets there
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Quoting: messynews
It says he has an extension.


thank you for actually reading the description
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28 mai à 14 h 43
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Quoting: Leafsleaks123
Why would he sign an extension in Columbus of all places before he even gets there


the team is built more around his age Gap Sillinger/ Laine/ Werenski/ Carlo/ Gavrikov/ Bjorkstrand/ Texier/ other small pieces like Bean, Roslovic, Marchenko, Chinakov.
If boston doesn't win next season they won't be competing for a while. CBJ has a bright future and would give Pasta a better chance at touching the cup in the next 5 years
28 mai à 14 h 47
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Quoting: Marcheesy
Isles say no. They wouldn't pay more than 1 2nd never mind 2 2nds and one of their top prospects


funny because other islanders fans have said they would give up a similiar package for Grzelyck who is a bonafide top 4 LHD something isles need.
Dufour had 1 good year in his +2 season in the QMJHL which is the highest scoring CJHL league. So he is a 20 yr old playing against a lot of 16-17 year olds and in an easy scoring league though he is valueable don't put to much value on him his comparison for game style and career projection for the last 2 seasons has been Cal Clutterbuck. In playoffs he also showed he isn't as dominant of a scorer as he looked in regular season
28 mai à 15 h 21
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I think Lambert and Gauthier would both clock in above Lysell in the prospect ranks. And Johnson too.

1. Lambert
2. Johnson
3. Gauthier
4. Lysell
5. Rinzel
6. Lohrei
28 mai à 15 h 45
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Quoting: Dekes
funny because other islanders fans have said they would give up a similiar package for Grzelyck who is a bonafide top 4 LHD something isles need.
Dufour had 1 good year in his +2 season in the QMJHL which is the highest scoring CJHL league. So he is a 20 yr old playing against a lot of 16-17 year olds and in an easy scoring league though he is valueable don't put to much value on him his comparison for game style and career projection for the last 2 seasons has been Cal Clutterbuck. In playoffs he also showed he isn't as dominant of a scorer as he looked in regular season


What Isles fan said that they'd give this up? It's way too much. Dufour is a solid prospect, regardless of "being an overager in a high scoring league." He's a projected 3rd line scorer, which is completely fine but that's an overpay and a half
28 mai à 16 h 3
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Love Pasta, but Columbus would be very very dumb to move Johnson, 6 and 12 for any one player who isn’t a a first line center, if Columbus were to make this trade Boston would have to take back Voracek, Columbus can’t afford 4 players making 8-9 mil and have none of them being a center.

I wouldn’t mind a Carlo for Boqvist swap though.
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28 mai à 16 h 9
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Craaazzzyyy overpayment for Grezlcyk
28 mai à 16 h 36
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You think bergeron is coming back if the bruins are dumping carlo and pastrnak for picks?
28 mai à 16 h 36
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Quoting: Hockeypal
Craaazzzyyy overpayment for Grezlcyk

How? Is that former 5th round pick lighting the world on fire or something?
28 mai à 17 h 11
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
How? Is that former 5th round pick lighting the world on fire or something?


I mean he’s worth a 2nd never mind two 2nds plus a potential top 6 winger who led the Q in Goals
28 mai à 18 h 0
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Love Pasta, but Columbus would be very very dumb to move Johnson, 6 and 12 for any one player who isn’t a a first line center, if Columbus were to make this trade Boston would have to take back Voracek, Columbus can’t afford 4 players making 8-9 mil and have none of them being a center.

I wouldn’t mind a Carlo for Boqvist swap though.


so if boston gave up like a prospect or pick and took back voracek you would say yes?
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Quoting: Dekes
so if boston gave up like a prospect or pick and took back voracek you would say yes?


Probably not tbh, as I said I love Pasta, but he isn’t worth 3 top 12 picks, that’s better than the picks Edmonton got in the Gretzky trade. Honestly McDavid is about the only player in the league I’d pay that much to get. Pasta is great, and as you said too 5 wing in the league, but even with an extension that too much. You essentially want 4 top 12 picks for Pasta and Carlo.
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I would hate this Columbus trade. Just so much potential to be horrendous for them for the next 15 years. Would much rather take the patient approach and keep 4 futures.
28 mai à 18 h 59
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Quoting: Hockeypal
I mean he’s worth a 2nd never mind two 2nds plus a potential top 6 winger who led the Q in Goals


Scoring as a 20 year old in the Q doesn’t really move the needle for me. Guys do that all the time and aren’t NHLers. Remember yannick riendeau? Guy couldn’t hack it in the ECHL and wound up playing in France.

A top four d man on a good contract is worth two seconds all day.
 
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