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Créé par: ReelBigFan
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2022
Publié: 1 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Basing this deal off the apparent JVR Petry deal that I’ve heard is almost a lock to happen, taking it one step further.
Montreal receivers a young and better D, plus a piece who they can move at the deadline and retain his salary for a 2nd.
Philly gets a younger forward and clears 5 million in cap

Note: the salary retention on Petry keeps getting messed up, trying to retain 3 million, not 3 dollars. First time trying to use this from my phone.

Flyers would have over 8 mill in cap left to try to improve, possibly make more deals, but this is just a thought
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RFAANSCAP HIT
31 250 000 $
31 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nemec, Simon
3800 000 $
Transactions
PHI
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Petry, Jeff (3 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Provorov, Ivan
  2. van Riemsdyk, James
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
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2282 500 000 $69 803 759 $295 000 $2 212 500 $12 696 241 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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4 675 000 $4 675 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
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RFA - 2
Nemec, Simon
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
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800 000 $800 000 $
G
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
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883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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1 mai 2022 à 10 h 11
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What in the hell is that ridiculous retention?!
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1 mai 2022 à 10 h 19
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Habs aren't going to retain 3mil on Petry for 3 years
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1 mai 2022 à 10 h 23
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Habs don't do this trade
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1 mai 2022 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
What in the hell is that ridiculous retention?!


Based off the rumour…
I don’t want Petry, but that was what the reports have been saying
1 mai 2022 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: Roperttos
Habs aren't going to retain 3mil on Petry for 3 years

Just going off the rumour. Figured adding the best player in the deal would be enough. Apparently they were going to do this minus Anderson/ Provorov but adding a prospect
1 mai 2022 à 10 h 54
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Quoting: HabsLoveZuki
Habs don't do this trade

The picks were probably wishful thinking, but overall Habs get the better end of the deal in the long run
1 mai 2022 à 10 h 57
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Retaining 3M is just too much even if we get Provy. I would rather remove the other parts of the deal and do 1 vs 1 and simply throw in a pick/prospect.. Petry+4th for JVR+prospect.
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 1
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Based off the rumour…
I don’t want Petry, but that was what the reports have been saying

You have it listed as $3, not $3m... I honestly wasn't sure if you were going for 3m, or it was a typo, or what... I can't see Montreal retaining anything, especially if they're eating JVRs monster contract
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1 mai 2022 à 11 h 6
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Retaining 3M is just too much even if we get Provy. I would rather remove the other parts of the deal and do 1 vs 1 and simply throw in a pick/prospect.. Petry+4th for JVR+prospect.

The rumours I’m hearing (TSN and a two different Philly reporters said this) is Petry with salary retained (I thought I heard 3M) for JVR and a prospect
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
You have it listed as $3, not $3m... I honestly wasn't sure if you were going for 3m, or it was a typo, or what... I can't see Montreal retaining anything, especially if they're eating JVRs monster contract



Haha yeah, first time using this, tried three times but it kept screwing up
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1 mai 2022 à 11 h 18
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The rumours I’m hearing (TSN and a two different Philly reporters said this) is Petry with salary retained (I thought I heard 3M) for JVR and a prospect


Yep fair enough but it won't be at 3M retained. IF retention is done, I'm thinking it will be equivalent to the amount that can be stashed in the minors (1.125m). Anything higher and the Habs are better served keeping Petry. The need to move him has kind of subsided a little as he stated in his year end presser that he's open to staying now since his family can easily travel from the states to Canada without restrictions anymore.
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1 mai 2022 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Just going off the rumour. Figured adding the best player in the deal would be enough. Apparently they were going to do this minus Anderson/ Provorov but adding a prospect


Montreal was not going to do this deal (even without Provorov/Anderson). Habs already said they aren't moving Petry unless the deal made sense for both sides. Since this deal makes 0 sense for the Habs because they already have WAAAAAYYYY too many wingers and almost 0 RHD or RGD prospects it does NOT work for the Habs. Also hearing Petry's and Hughes' exit interviews their is mutual interest in Petry returning to Montreal next season. He now just has to sell it to his wife and family, which is just one more reason this trade does not work and is not going to happen. Also Montreal retaining 3 mil x 3 years is preposterous since Hughes already said he is NOT retaining on Petry because he is still a top 4 D man and worth his contract.
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 36
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The rumours I’m hearing (TSN and a two different Philly reporters said this) is Petry with salary retained (I thought I heard 3M) for JVR and a prospect


Those Philly reporters are just wistfully thinking they can swap a horrible monster contract with a top 4 RHD and not have to give anything up in return. Imagine if I offered you Gallagher + Romanov + 4th for Provorov + Konecny + 2nd and asked you to retain half on Provotov. Would you do that? No cause it is ridiculous!
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 54
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Rumour was coming from up here as well. I live in MTL, heard it here before I saw reports down there
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 56
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Quoting: Campabee
Those Philly reporters are just wistfully thinking they can swap a horrible monster contract with a top 4 RHD and not have to give anything up in return. Imagine if I offered you Gallagher + Romanov + 4th for Provorov + Konecny + 2nd and asked you to retain half on Provotov. Would you do that? No cause it is ridiculous!


That offer isn’t even remotely similar. MTL gets the best player in the deal I made, and wins long term.
And yeah, those rumours came from Canada before philly

Pretty sure the prospect in the deal was probably a guy worth talking about like Brink…
1 mai 2022 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Campabee
Montreal was not going to do this deal (even without Provorov/Anderson). Habs already said they aren't moving Petry unless the deal made sense for both sides. Since this deal makes 0 sense for the Habs because they already have WAAAAAYYYY too many wingers and almost 0 RHD or RGD prospects it does NOT work for the Habs. Also hearing Petry's and Hughes' exit interviews their is mutual interest in Petry returning to Montreal next season. He now just has to sell it to his wife and family, which is just one more reason this trade does not work and is not going to happen. Also Montreal retaining 3 mil x 3 years is preposterous since Hughes already said he is NOT retaining on Petry because he is still a top 4 D man and worth his contract.

The deal is literally a D and winger for a D and winger…
1 mai 2022 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
That offer isn’t even remotely similar. MTL gets the best player in the deal I made, and wins long term.
And yeah, those rumours came from Canada before philly


1. They are not meant to be similar other than similarly ridiculous.

2. YOU said they came from Philly reporters

3. It does not change the facts outlined above. Hughes is NOT retaining, will not move petry unless it makes sense and this deal has us trading a position of weakness for a position of strength.
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1 mai 2022 à 12 h 8
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The deal is literally a D and winger for a D and winger…


When I said the deal wasn't what we would be looking for I was referring to the reported deal of JVR for Petry, not your adjusted deal.
1 mai 2022 à 12 h 10
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This is atrocious for Montreal.

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The rumours I’m hearing (TSN and a two different Philly reporters said this) is Petry with salary retained (I thought I heard 3M) for JVR and a prospect


It wasn't 3 mil. And the situation has changed for Montreal since then.
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1 mai 2022 à 12 h 13
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This is atrocious for Montreal.



It wasn't 3 mil. And the situation has changed for Montreal since then.


Heard as of last Philly/ Habs game it’s still high possibility

And I sorta doubt it will be MTL retaining, probably shell it off to a team in need of the cap ceiling.
1 mai 2022 à 12 h 49
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Heard as of last Philly/ Habs game it’s still high possibility

And I sorta doubt it will be MTL retaining, probably shell it off to a team in need of the cap ceiling.


OK? Still dont see how that makes sense from Montreal given what it wouldcosta 3rd party to retain. It's not even clear if Petry still wants out given his great 2nd half, looser restrictions in Montreal and his exit interview yesterday.
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1 mai 2022 à 23 h 52
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Rumour was coming from up here as well. I live in MTL, heard it here before I saw reports down there


There was never a rumor of Montreal retaining $3,000,000 on Petry. It was basically Petry for JVR and a couple smaller pieces. Besides Philly is on Petry's no trade list and they've already said that he wont waive to go there.
2 mai 2022 à 8 h 20
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
There was never a rumor of Montreal retaining $3,000,000 on Petry. It was basically Petry for JVR and a couple smaller pieces. Besides Philly is on Petry's no trade list and they've already said that he wont waive to go there.


Where did you hear Philly was on his NTC? Rumour had a high prospect and salary retention, no one ever said how much but I assumed 3M based on who I thought they’d ask for
2 mai 2022 à 8 h 32
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Where did you hear Philly was on his NTC? Rumour had a high prospect and salary retention, no one ever said how much but I assumed 3M based on who I thought they’d ask for


Saw it on Spector Hockey Eric Engles and the French insider for the Canadiens had mentioned it. And there's no freaking way Ken Hughes is retaining 50% on Petry for the supposed ask.
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2 mai 2022 à 8 h 50
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Saw it on Spector Hockey Eric Engles and the French insider for the Canadiens had mentioned it. And there's no freaking way Ken Hughes is retaining 50% on Petry for the supposed ask.


That’s fair, the entire rumour seemed off.
Why would the Habs want JVR?
Why would Philly want Petry?
Why would MTL retain?
Why would Philly give up a top prospect for a declining player when they are in such a bad position as is?

Hughes had one of the best trade deadlines this year, Fletcher got his butt kicked in deals… I wouldn’t expect Fletcher to get an offer like that, just confused where these rumours came from and why they had traction if Philly was part of his list.

Truthfully, if a deal goes down, I want Edmundson, love watching him in his own zone
 
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