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Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2022
Publié: 3 avr. 2022
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Let me know if any of your teams I didn’t mention would have any interest in scheifele. I’m curious to know what you would say he’s worth.
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Could there be something around here? Bergeron if staying which is likely, could help scheifele on the defensive side.
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if severson would be willing to resign, would NJ have any interest in building around this? They aren’t necessarily trying to win now, but aren’t tanking.
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    Darryl Sutter would have scheifele in place quickly. Also with Monahan on LTIR scheifele has a lower cap hit so there’s no issue with salary.
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      3 avr. 2022 à 0 h 54
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      Flames may have interest if Gaudreau leaves
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      3 avr. 2022 à 1 h 46
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      Flames may have interest if Gaudreau leaves


      They would have interest if Gaudreau stays lol. Pelletier should only be available for a top 6 center with term and MS fits that description. Jets would probably have to take back Monahan though as he would not be on LTIR next year
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      3 avr. 2022 à 1 h 48
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      Gotta think they'll try to send him to an Eastern Conference team if they trade Scheifele which seems more likely as every game goes by, I think he's already put in a trade request.
      I could see Philly having interest in Scheifele, they need some offense, no idea what their cap situation is though.

      So some of the TSN guys like Lebrun and Dreger were speculating that there will be big changes to the Jets this offseason.

      Someone on here today said they heard on 32 Thoughts that Hellebuyck doesn't want to play in Canada anymore, could Bucky get traded in the summer??

      The Jets need a big overhaul, think they're headed for a few years of being around where they are now and then into a full rebuild in around three years when guys like Ehlers and Connor are closer to UFA.
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      3 avr. 2022 à 2 h 55
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Gotta think they'll try to send him to an Eastern Conference team if they trade Scheifele which seems more likely as every game goes by, I think he's already put in a trade request.
      I could see Philly having interest in Scheifele, they need some offense, no idea what their cap situation is though.

      So some of the TSN guys like Lebrun and Dreger were speculating that there will be big changes to the Jets this offseason.

      Someone on here today said they heard on 32 Thoughts that Hellebuyck doesn't want to play in Canada anymore, could Bucky get traded in the summer??

      The Jets need a big overhaul, think they're headed for a few years of being around where they are now and then into a full rebuild in around three years when guys like Ehlers and Connor are closer to UFA.


      It will be interesting markets kicking the tires on scheifele, let’s say Florida/pit/Carolina lose in the first round, I imagine they all try to retool a little to get a run in. There could be chaos in Winnipeg if helly wants out also, that pretty much opens the door for anybody getting moved, why would anybody be safe? Dubois/Connor/ehlers would probably bring the most in return. Could be one chaotic off-season.
      3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 36
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      It will be interesting markets kicking the tires on scheifele, let’s say Florida/pit/Carolina lose in the first round, I imagine they all try to retool a little to get a run in. There could be chaos in Winnipeg if helly wants out also, that pretty much opens the door for anybody getting moved, why would anybody be safe? Dubois/Connor/ehlers would probably bring the most in return. Could be one chaotic off-season.


      Could see a total tear down if hellebuyck does want to leave.

      I agree that it’ll likely be teams like CAR/PIT/FLA/CGY/BOS interested in scheifele.
      3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 37
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Gotta think they'll try to send him to an Eastern Conference team if they trade Scheifele which seems more likely as every game goes by, I think he's already put in a trade request.
      I could see Philly having interest in Scheifele, they need some offense, no idea what their cap situation is though.

      So some of the TSN guys like Lebrun and Dreger were speculating that there will be big changes to the Jets this offseason.

      Someone on here today said they heard on 32 Thoughts that Hellebuyck doesn't want to play in Canada anymore, could Bucky get traded in the summer??

      The Jets need a big overhaul, think they're headed for a few years of being around where they are now and then into a full rebuild in around three years when guys like Ehlers and Connor are closer to UFA.


      The team will crumble if hellebuyck does want to leave. I don’t see how they wouldn’t head into a rebuild if scheifele and hellebuyck both leave, other guys would likely be wanting a chance to win somewhere else. Going to be a major offseason.

      Ken Wiebe was talking about how a scheifele for provorov deal could be potentially interesting.
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      They would have interest if Gaudreau stays lol. Pelletier should only be available for a top 6 center with term and MS fits that description. Jets would probably have to take back Monahan though as he would not be on LTIR next year


      I thought this would be an interesting one. If jets would be able to take on Monahan and send him somewhere like ARI I’d say they’d be interested.
      3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 42
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      Devils are quite deep at center position (Hughes, Hischier, Mercer, McLeod, Boqvist) and have already pushed a couple of natural centers to wing (Zacha, Sharangovich). If we moved Severson, we’d likely be looking for one of the following:

      (1) A young defensive, dman, preferably RHD. Preferably one who excels in d-zone exits, and d-zone entry denials.
      (2) A bigger goal-scoring winger. Big body, soft hands type who can play net front, tip, deflect, screen, and clean up rebounds.
      (3) A starting goalie (or 1b type)
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      3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 44
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      Devils are quite deep at center position (Hughes, Hischier, Mercer, McLeod, Boqvist) and have already pushed a couple of natural centers to wing (Zacha, Sharangovich). If we moved Severson, we’d likely be looking for one of the following:

      (1) A young defensive, dman, preferably RHD. Preferably one who excels in d-zone exits, and d-zone entry denials.
      (2) A bigger goal-scoring winger. Big body, soft hands type who can play net front, tip, deflect, screen, and clean up rebounds.
      (3) A starting goalie (or 1b type)


      Can I interest you in one, Connor Hellebuyck?

      I figured scheifele to NJ would be the least realistic as for reasons you mentioned.
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      3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 20
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      The team will crumble if hellebuyck does want to leave. I don’t see how they wouldn’t head into a rebuild if scheifele and hellebuyck both leave, other guys would likely be wanting a chance to win somewhere else. Going to be a major offseason.

      Ken Wiebe was talking about how a scheifele for provorov deal could be potentially interesting.


      I tried to find this Helly thing on 32 Thoughts but I couldn't, maybe it was mentioned on the podcast but I wasn't about to listen to that whole thing..lol... So maybe there's no truth to it Idk but there can't be too many happy people in Jetsland these days so who knows.

      I like Provorov and think he'd be an awesome get but is he or someone else playing on their offhand and are some current Jets dmen getting moved out cause while that defense isn't perfect it is crowded and has plenty of lefties in it.

      If they trade Scheifele they're probably not getting a 1/2C back, no idea yet as to what Perfetti will be at the NHL level and they've already done their usual of starting him on the wing so there's that plus is PLD really a 1C or just a really good 2C.

      They sure have a lot of issues and things to sort out, if we thought their window was still open or could be propped back open with just some tweaks we were way wrong.
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      3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 39
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      I’m guessing the bruins look for a younger center.
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      I thought this would be an interesting one. If jets would be able to take on Monahan and send him somewhere like ARI I’d say they’d be interested.


      They have the cap space for him if you remove the retention on the 1st Scheifele trade and Severson from the 2nd. Could help easy Perfetti into the role too. I doubt Monahan waives to Arizona
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      I tried to find this Helly thing on 32 Thoughts but I couldn't, maybe it was mentioned on the podcast but I wasn't about to listen to that whole thing..lol... So maybe there's no truth to it Idk but there can't be too many happy people in Jetsland these days so who knows.

      I like Provorov and think he'd be an awesome get but is he or someone else playing on their offhand and are some current Jets dmen getting moved out cause while that defense isn't perfect it is crowded and has plenty of lefties in it.

      If they trade Scheifele they're probably not getting a 1/2C back, no idea yet as to what Perfetti will be at the NHL level and they've already done their usual of starting him on the wing so there's that plus is PLD really a 1C or just a really good 2C.

      They sure have a lot of issues and things to sort out, if we thought their window was still open or could be propped back open with just some tweaks we were way wrong.


      I couldn't find anything about Hellebuyck on their podcast (skimmed through it) or on their 32 Thoughts spot on HNIC. In the Jets-Kings pregame they did a lengthy segment on how Hellebuyck is having a historically busy season and how he has easily been the most played and shot against goalie in recent years by a large margin. If the Jets move Hellebuyck, then the record will get even worse and result in more empty seats (or on the bright side a buyers market in the secondary market).
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      3 avr. 2022 à 10 h 2
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      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
      I couldn't find anything about Hellebuyck on their podcast (skimmed through it) or on their 32 Thoughts spot on HNIC. In the Jets-Kings pregame they did a lengthy segment on how Hellebuyck is having a historically busy season and how he has easily been the most played and shot against goalie in recent years by a large margin. If the Jets move Hellebuyck, then the record will get even worse and result in more empty seats (or on the bright side a buyers market in the secondary market).


      The fanbase is at the peak in terms of anger. Everyone knows the jets are pretenders. Fans don’t care about rebuilding, they just want their team to have direction and a plan. Trying to duct tape every hole shut and ride your beater to the cup doesn’t work.

      I feel like fans would rather see 2-3 years of suffering to rebuild than to watch a mediocre team miss the playoffs by 7 pts every year.

      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      I tried to find this Helly thing on 32 Thoughts but I couldn't, maybe it was mentioned on the podcast but I wasn't about to listen to that whole thing..lol... So maybe there's no truth to it Idk but there can't be too many happy people in Jetsland these days so who knows.

      I like Provorov and think he'd be an awesome get but is he or someone else playing on their offhand and are some current Jets dmen getting moved out cause while that defense isn't perfect it is crowded and has plenty of lefties in it.

      If they trade Scheifele they're probably not getting a 1/2C back, no idea yet as to what Perfetti will be at the NHL level and they've already done their usual of starting him on the wing so there's that plus is PLD really a 1C or just a really good 2C.

      They sure have a lot of issues and things to sort out, if we thought their window was still open or could be propped back open with just some tweaks we were way wrong.


      Yeah I wasn’t able to find the clip either. But I also have heard this being said for like 3 weeks. I mean I wouldnt really blame Helly if he did want out, he’s being left out to dry every game.

      I know Provorov is a LHD, but he plays the right side very well. But let’s be real, if scheifele is gone, the jets likely are heading towards a rebuild so just get a prospect.

      No chance they get a top 6 C back. Unless it’s a C prospect that’s a year or two away. This team has a ton of issues.
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      They have the cap space for him if you remove the retention on the 1st Scheifele trade and Severson from the 2nd. Could help easy Perfetti into the role too. I doubt Monahan waives to Arizona


      Monahan for 1 year isn’t the end of the world, considering the jets likely would be rebuilding if scheifele is moved. Definitely a trade there
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      Just don't think Scheifele to Boston is in the cards.

      If Bergeron returns the Bruins will be right up against the cap with no room for Scheifele.

      If Bergeron does not return Boston has the cap space to acquire him but then the issue becomes do the Bruins have the assets to make a deal happen. Just don't think so.
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      The fanbase is at the peak in terms of anger. Everyone knows the jets are pretenders. Fans don’t care about rebuilding, they just want their team to have direction and a plan. Trying to duct tape every hole shut and ride your beater to the cup doesn’t work.

      I feel like fans would rather see 2-3 years of suffering to rebuild than to watch a mediocre team miss the playoffs by 7 pts every year.



      Yeah I wasn’t able to find the clip either. But I also have heard this being said for like 3 weeks. I mean I wouldnt really blame Helly if he did want out, he’s being left out to dry every game.

      I know Provorov is a LHD, but he plays the right side very well. But let’s be real, if scheifele is gone, the jets likely are heading towards a rebuild so just get a prospect.

      No chance they get a top 6 C back. Unless it’s a C prospect that’s a year or two away. This team has a ton of issues.


      I'm all for only 2-3 years of suffering if that means a better outlook. That said, if Hellebuyck is the one that moves, then it is years more than that in the wilderness. Moving Scheifele and getting a new coach might be the better move.
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      I'm all for only 2-3 years of suffering if that means a better outlook. That said, if Hellebuyck is the one that moves, then it is years more than that in the wilderness. Moving Scheifele and getting a new coach might be the better move.


      I just think with the situation we’re in, hellebuyck likely isn’t going to resign. He only has 2 years left after this season. Why not just suffer and try and get as much possible for guys like Scheifele and Hellebuyck. I know goalies are hard to find, but typically you just want a goalie that’s above average. You can patch work goaltending until you find one.
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      I just think with the situation we’re in, hellebuyck likely isn’t going to resign. He only has 2 years left after this season. Why not just suffer and try and get as much possible for guys like Scheifele and Hellebuyck. I know goalies are hard to find, but typically you just want a goalie that’s above average.


      If locker-room likeable guys like Byfuglien and Hellebuyck are driven off, then you know you have a cancer in the locker room.
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      If locker-room likeable guys like Byfuglien and Hellebuyck are driven off, then you know you have a cancer in the locker room.


      I don’t know if it’s about being driven off. More about the team results. Trust me if hellebuyck would be a career jet I’d be ecstatic, I just don’t see it with the awful groups we’ve made him suffer through the past 3 years.

      I’m all for keeping hellebuyck, just if he doesn’t want to resign I think you have to make a move and try to retool. I wish there was a team dumb enough to give up a prospect like Knight for Scheifele.
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      Quoting: tsyls
      Could see a total tear down if hellebuyck does want to leave.

      I agree that it’ll likely be teams like CAR/PIT/FLA/CGY/BOS interested in scheifele.


      I don't know if Florida would work. They don't have first round picks for three years.
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      I don't know if Florida would work. They don't have first round picks for three years.


      Knight. That's what I'm thinking. I know they likely don't do it, but man that would be a great return
       
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