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Trade Everything for this guy

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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2022
Publié: 23 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
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  3. Nylander, William
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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23 mars 2022 à 15 h 59
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I would be legit curious what a seider deal would have to look like
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23 mars 2022 à 15 h 59
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If they can get him without giving up Matthews (which won't happen), Dubas should be named GM of the year.
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23 mars 2022 à 15 h 59
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 13
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Quoting: Theozler
I would be legit curious what a seider deal would have to look like


List of players that they'd likely deal him for:
McDavid
Matthews
maybe Draisaitl
MacKinnon with contract extension guaranteed
Makar
maybe Barkov
maybe Fox
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: leafs101
List of players that they'd likely deal him for:
McDavid
Matthews
maybe Draisaitl
MacKinnon with contract extension guaranteed
Makar
maybe Barkov
maybe Fox


I think they'd consider a package like this - Stevie Y loves good value
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 17
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Seider is untouchable and there is not a single thing you could offer Detroit to change that.
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: Theozler
I would be legit curious what a seider deal would have to look like

The next 10 1st round picks and Matthews with 50% retention.
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
The next 10 1st round picks and Matthews with 50% retention.


at least
23 mars 2022 à 16 h 28
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Needless to say, TOR doesn't have the assets to land Seider.

He's about as or maybe more untouchable as Matthews due to the length of team control over him.
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 31
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Okay chill comparing Seider to Matthews, yes he has a lot of value but come on Matthews is a top 3 player and idk why everyone is acting like he can't just sign a contract extension at some point lmfao.
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Okay chill comparing Seider to Matthews, yes he has a lot of value but come on Matthews is a top 3 player and idk why everyone is acting like he can't just sign a contract extension at some point lmfao.


if he had any other logo on his chest besides the one he has now it would be different
23 mars 2022 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: Ichbinian
at least


1C>1D
23 mars 2022 à 16 h 38
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Seider is untouchable and there is not a single thing you could offer Detroit to change that.


So you're telling me you'd rather have Moritz Seider than Connor McDavid?

Quoting: DeadWingsv2
The next 10 1st round picks and Matthews with 50% retention.


Quoting: Ichbinian
at least


Lol. How about we give you Sandin (yes, I know Seider is far better it's just a comparison to show you how bad your take is) for Larkin and 10 first round picks instead?
23 mars 2022 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Okay chill comparing Seider to Matthews, yes he has a lot of value but come on Matthews is a top 3 player and idk why everyone is acting like he can't just sign a contract extension at some point lmfao.


For that sass, now it's 20 1st round picks, Matthews at 50% retention and the historical rights to Tim Horton
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23 mars 2022 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
For that sass, now it's 20 1st round picks, Matthews at 50% retention and the historical rights to Tim Horton


7th round pick take it or leave it
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23 mars 2022 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Saskleaf
If they can get him without giving up Matthews (which won't happen), Dubas should be named GM of the year.


I agree Our GMs know better in this situation If one out performs the other someone is definitely getting fired.
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23 mars 2022 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: leafs101
List of players that they'd likely deal him for:
McDavid
Matthews
maybe Draisaitl
MacKinnon with contract extension guaranteed
Makar
maybe Barkov
maybe Fox


That looks good if one of them were on the table the so would Seider.
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23 mars 2022 à 17 h 13
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Quoting: aedoran
I agree Our GMs know better in this situation If one out performs the other someone is definitely getting fired.


I think if Matthews for Seider was offered Steve Y would take it but the thing is, it probably wouldn't be offered.
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23 mars 2022 à 17 h 20
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I think the hypothetical never going to happen trades should stay in the trade machine section.

The only reason you posted this is because you wanted to hear a Detroit fan say I'd trade Seider. or You wanted Detroit fans to say they wouldn't accept it giving you a reason to get into gan argument. But either way you are playing some kind of immature game.
23 mars 2022 à 17 h 21
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Seider is not for sale.
23 mars 2022 à 17 h 31
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Lol Wings fans saying a defenceman is worth more than anyone in the league.
23 mars 2022 à 17 h 37
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I think if Matthews for Seider was offered Steve Y would take it but the thing is, it probably wouldn't be offered.


Maybe just because it's hard to judge the fallout. Toronto loves Matthews and so do most of the Toronto fans on CapFriendly. Those blow it up ACGMs or need a change ACGM Matthews is the one player you see far less than any other player. Who ever proposes the trade I think the other says no. I really don't see either one doing this.

To answer your question yes I think Matthews is better than Seider. That's the question you really wanted answered. Right???
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23 mars 2022 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: aedoran
Maybe just because it's hard to judge the fallout. Toronto loves Matthews and so do most of the Toronto fans on CapFriendly. Those blow it up ACGMs or need a change ACGM Matthews is the one player you see far less than any other player. Who ever proposes the trade I think the other says no. I really don't see either one doing this.

To answer your question yes I think Matthews is better than Seider. That's the question you really wanted answered. Right???


I suppose.

Well, I guess I was also wondering how a Marner Seider swap would go. Because in my unbiased opinion Seiders value is probably slightly higher, but I’d be curious as to what you think.
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23 mars 2022 à 18 h 42
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I suppose.

Well, I guess I was also wondering how a Marner Seider swap would go. Because in my unbiased opinion Seiders value is probably slightly higher, but I’d be curious as to what you think.


Without a cap, they're probably equivalent in my mind, unfortunately, there's a hard cap and Seider makes $800k for 2 seasons
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23 mars 2022 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Seider is untouchable and there is not a single thing you could offer Detroit to change that.


Crazy how a guy can play 63 NHL games and be completely untouchable - I'd be willing to argue whether this package is enough but everyone in the league is available at the right price
In this trade you get your RW1 until Raymond surpasses him, a RD who is OBVIOUSLY worse but still a young guy that will play top 4 minutes, Knies, who people are calling one of the better prospects in the game, and on top of that another first round pick. Leafs get the better player without a doubt but the Red Wings get better
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