Columbus declines, they'd want a younger forward or a pick, Lysell also probably should be included in the Hertl deal in lou of Studinca, so all in all both teams decline because they know there are better options out there.

i would do both of those deals in a second as a bruins fan slight overpay for hertl maybe drop the 3rd if youre including 2 prospects. or drop one of the prospects if you include the 3rd. youll probably hear sharks fans say they have no use in studnicka or vaak and that lysell/lohrei needs to be included but i think vaak is a solid guy that you could pair with burns or EK and be a solid fit for either guy. high IQ plays smart, hes had a couple concussions early on in his career now which arent the greatest but the talent is still there. he looked great with mcavoy. and studnicka is just not being given a large enough leash to adapt to the nhl. a couple games with inconsistent linemates isnt showing a desire to actually try him out.

CBJ would probably want more for texier. ive been a huge texier fan. I thought torts really misused him and that he will have a solid career. I think debrusk is still a 30/20 or 25/20 guy depending on usage. imo hes a 15/10 guy right now and he has most of his time on the 3rd line with no real pp time. he also should come with an extension... the only thing is idk if debrusk plays over nyqvist or voracek. you would kind of just be replacing domi with debrusk and while thats a goal scoring for play making swap i dont think columbus is super interested in a 1 for 1 here. theres other teams in the league with a direct need at 1 or 2 lw that debrusk would really flourish on.

zero chance as a rental sharks get a 1st and lysell/lohrei... ZERO.

zero chance SJ accepts this deal lol. It's simply just awful. We give you our best player and you send a future 4th liner and a LD prospect that we do not need at all. It's a very easy pass without Lysell. k thx bye

Jackets decline easily. You’re going to have to include a first and probably Lysell for Hertl

show me a rental trade where a team got a true rental and were compensated a 1st + a teams top prospect... ill wait.

Why waste time talking to someone who thinks Studnicka is a future 4th liner LMAO.

theres already a 1st and a 3rd in the trade for hertl which is probably the package he gets. maybe they are able to pull another prospect out of it but i doubt it. nobody in rentals has really gone for more than that. imo duchene trade a couple years ago is probably the best comparison trade wise. vitaly abramov 2016 3rd rounder, jonathon davidsson (2017 6th rounder) and a 2019 1st.

bruins are sending more in this trade then columbus did for duchene by a wide margin.

He might be your top prospect. He certainly wouldn't be our top prospect. Show me a trade where a team sends their best player under 30 in his prime in exchange for a prospect with a bottom six ceiling, an average LD prospect and a low 1st. I'll wait.

Duchene also included another conditional first rounder based on re signing. So maybe if you throw in a conditional first based on making the ECF instead. Jackets got similar packages to what you offered last year for Savard and Foligno. Both of which aren’t nearly as valuable as Hertl.

If your comp is Duchene it would be more like 22 first, 23 first if they reach ECF (converts to 23 second if not), 23 third, and studnicka.

duchene didnt resign and that was completely separate from the original deal... the deal was a 1st a former 3rd round prospect and a former 6th round prospect.

savard and foligno were two of the top guys last year at the tdl were they not? hall is an anomoly, last years tdl wasnt the greatest in terms of comparables because of the impending expansion draft. more was spent for rentals than other years because they were going to likely lose someone with term anyways.

only eklund would be rated higher than lysell right now from your prospect pool... so no im sorry would you trade a 1st and eklund for bergeron?

Bad example as Bergeron is going on 37 years old lol. Just face it, we're not giving you our best player in his prime for a couple turds and a 1st. Sorry, just how it is.

The conditional first was part of the original deal. You can’t make those conditions anymore so that’s why I flipped it to ECF instead

right but ecf is an achievable milestone. its not unlikely it happens. you can choose to not resign a player, if you are going to win a cup you dont choose to miss the ECF. the two are not similar enough conditions. maybe putting in a point requirement or something like that but i dont see any player getting 2 firsts + top prospect as a rental conditional or not.

same thing hes our best player. he would be a rental. the only difference is age. hertl isnt signed for 10 more years. he has no term, if he had an extension you would have an argument... hes signed through the end of the year. you arent trading this massive commodity. you could not trade him and lose him for nothing in free agency in 4 months. realistically paying a top prospect and a first for 20ish games makes ZERO logical sense. literally wont happen. from any team. all sharks fans need to look at that picture and wake up.

Yup sharks decline

All those years of Jack Edwards screaming in your ear finally taking a toll LOL

Lysell prbably would also be bellow some of the other 2020 draft picks but hey, don't want to offer market value then you won't get him, simple as that, he is a top notch centerman that has a three team no trade list. Boston would have to give up a top prospect, they would not care for Studicka and a bottom four defenceman plus late picks, they'd rather Eklund.




Hey, it's not like it happens every year in March, I think that time of year has a name for something, oh right the TDL, when teams who believe they have a shot ship out futures to get better now, it happes all the time, whatever pitiful offer the Bruins fans put isn't enough unless it uses one of your top prospects because you don't get a 5 time 20 goal man for free.

lysell is slightly under eklund don't act like lysell is some depth prospect for san jose, lysell skating just got compared to the likes of only mcdavid and bure , and i think you keep missing the big picture unless hertl and san jose sign a contract before deadline he is still a UFA which means his value is lower and no one is gonna pay full price for a player they get for only 3 months of hockey

Boston fans cant accept their prospect pool is weak other then Lysell. they dont have the pieces to beat out other Hertl offers.

can easily do so as theres no reason picks alone cant get it done. especially considering HE IS A RENTAL!!! you guys are beyond delusional if you think youll get more than the package above for a guy with no extension. its crazy how many fans on here think rentals = players with term and even those guys the ask is ridiculous. "oh you want pastrnak thats 7 firsts and your 3 best prospects, hes signed long term and has a great cap hit!" exaggeration but you get my point. Hertl is a rental. RENTAL, on a bad team hes a .75ppg player with 22 goals. hes arguably your 2nd best player behind meier right now. Heres the thing though guys... hes a free agent at the end of the year. there is ZERO guarantee he signs long term with san jose. you have 2 options. trade him or keep him and hope you can agree to an extension before he reaches ufa and you lose him for nothing. the bruins/any single team in the league isnt giving up a 1st and a top 50 prospect in the league for a rental. even a guy with term you arent getting even close to an eichel package. eichel comes with term and hes a superstar in the league. hertl isnt even close to that tier.

We know our pool is weaker in comparisons to the likes of say a rangers or a kings squad. and you know what maybe the rangers overpay a little bit to acquire hertl, but seriously... the rangers overpaying would be a 1st and chytil with a like 4th or 4th equivalent prospect. i could easily see it being a 1st chytil and matthew rempe or something like that from NYR side.

please for the love of god, look historically at the moves that have happened via the RENTAL market the prices you guys are asking are double/triple sometimes quadruple what players actually go for.

obviously if Hertl had term, the package would have to include Lohrei, and/or Lysell but that is simply not the case. I think in a rental scenario this is suffice as others do.

No we're well aware our prospect pool is weak, but other fans seem to think that the only guy we have is Lysell and that everyone else is a bum that probably doesn't even see time in the NHL. Lohrei is insanley underrated here because he wasn't a big name in the draft. The reality is he's a 6'4 d-man that was the best d-man in the USHL last year and ranked 6th overall among all USHL players in points. The next closest d-man to him in points has 14 less points in 5 more games played. This year at OSU he's top T-7th in points among all NCAA d-men.

pretty much yeah. but 3 month rentals dont get you top prospects and firsts +++ doesnt ever happen. itll be 1 first, a mid round pick or prospect, a later round pick or prospect similar to duchene.

funny how they forget trading for EK who at the time was a 1 year rental and was a top 5 defenseman in hockey... and they gave up a 1st, francis perron (2014 7th round pick), teirney a 2012 2nd round pick who was playing pretty decently for them but was in a contract year and just put up a career high points, balcers (2015 5th rounder) and demelo 2011 6th round pick who was a bottom pairing guy that had a decent year but was a ufa himself. lets boil that down real quick to a 1st 2 drafts out, (dont forget sharks were contenders in 2018.) a young roster player in teirney who needed a new contract basically solidified himself as a 3c for ottawa, demelo a 24 year old bottom pairing dman, a 5th round prospect, and a 7th round prospect.

im failing to see where the top prospects were dealt here for a significantly larger talent. or multiple firsts etc. for A RENTAL...

edit: oh and btw... karlsson wasnt a tdl rental, he came for the full year. trade happened in september not march.