No we're well aware our prospect pool is weak, but other fans seem to think that the only guy we have is Lysell and that everyone else is a bum that probably doesn't even see time in the NHL. Lohrei is insanley underrated here because he wasn't a big name in the draft. The reality is he's a 6'4 d-man that was the best d-man in the USHL last year and ranked 6th overall among all USHL players in points. The next closest d-man to him in points has 14 less points in 5 more games played. This year at OSU he's top T-7th in points among all NCAA d-men.

can easily do so as theres no reason picks alone cant get it done. especially considering HE IS A RENTAL!!! you guys are beyond delusional if you think youll get more than the package above for a guy with no extension. its crazy how many fans on here think rentals = players with term and even those guys the ask is ridiculous. "oh you want pastrnak thats 7 firsts and your 3 best prospects, hes signed long term and has a great cap hit!" exaggeration but you get my point. Hertl is a rental. RENTAL, on a bad team hes a .75ppg player with 22 goals. hes arguably your 2nd best player behind meier right now. Heres the thing though guys... hes a free agent at the end of the year. there is ZERO guarantee he signs long term with san jose. you have 2 options. trade him or keep him and hope you can agree to an extension before he reaches ufa and you lose him for nothing. the bruins/any single team in the league isnt giving up a 1st and a top 50 prospect in the league for a rental. even a guy with term you arent getting even close to an eichel package. eichel comes with term and hes a superstar in the league. hertl isnt even close to that tier.

We know our pool is weaker in comparisons to the likes of say a rangers or a kings squad. and you know what maybe the rangers overpay a little bit to acquire hertl, but seriously... the rangers overpaying would be a 1st and chytil with a like 4th or 4th equivalent prospect. i could easily see it being a 1st chytil and matthew rempe or something like that from NYR side.

please for the love of god, look historically at the moves that have happened via the RENTAL market the prices you guys are asking are double/triple sometimes quadruple what players actually go for.

Um, first of all, I don't even think that Lysell is in the top 100 prospects in the league second of all, rentals get a lot two, especially if their five time 20 goal scorers that are very good players, just check out the deal that the Islanders gave the Sens for Pageau, a player that did not have term at the deadline.
- The Ottawa Senators traded Jean-Gabriel Pageau to the New York Islanders for a 2020 conditional first-round pick, 2020 second-round pick and a 2022 conditional third-round pick.
or another
- The St. Louis Blues traded Kevin Shattenkirk and Pheonix Copley to the Washington Capitals for a 2017 first-round pick, 2019 conditional second-round pick, Zach Sanford and Brad Malone.
This happens every year at the TDL, top players that are on expiring contracts on a sinking team get dealt for a lot.
Also what do you think Hertl is worth? I'm not even a SJ fan. He is a franchise player for SJ, you don't get franchise players for cheap.

The trades are according too: https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/nhl-trade-deadline-first-round-picks-history-rumors-news-market-tracker/1h85s6s94cbxx1qoooczvsk7tf

JGP was traded to the NYI on Feb 28th....he signed a 6yr/$30 million deal on Feb 28th per cap friendly. They had an extension already worked about before JGP was traded to the Islanders.

Okay, well take any of the other trades from that list, or theoretically the Vrana trade, rentals do get a lot, and go to any other ACGM of Hertl trades they'll give up a lot more, so....

Never said they didn't lol. I also put ZERO stock in what a fan would offer because fans don't make decisions.

Yeah, Sweeney is also an interesting GM, has a very good model and is okay with trades but isn't great with the draft.

Um, first of all, I don't even think that Lysell is in the top 100 prospects in the league second of all, rentals get a lot two, especially if their five time 20 goal scorers that are very good players, just check out the deal that the Islanders gave the Sens for Pageau, a player that did not have term at the deadline.
- The Ottawa Senators traded Jean-Gabriel Pageau to the New York Islanders for a 2020 conditional first-round pick, 2020 second-round pick and a 2022 conditional third-round pick.
or another
- The St. Louis Blues traded Kevin Shattenkirk and Pheonix Copley to the Washington Capitals for a 2017 first-round pick, 2019 conditional second-round pick, Zach Sanford and Brad Malone.
This happens every year at the TDL, top players that are on expiring contracts on a sinking team get dealt for a lot.
Also what do you think Hertl is worth? I'm not even a SJ fan. He is a franchise player for SJ, you don't get franchise players for cheap.

The trades are according too: https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/nhl-trade-deadline-first-round-picks-history-rumors-news-market-tracker/1h85s6s94cbxx1qoooczvsk7tf

Their drafting has gotten better the past few seasons, but those first few drafts really screwed us. Sometimes he puts to much stock in certain scouts opinions. Rumor is he wanted Robert Thomas in 2017, but one of our scouts was adamant about Vaak....and well we know how that went. Another odd thing is If you look the Bruins had a 3 year stretch from the 2018 to 2020 draft where they selected no players from the CHL. Last season they took Brett Harrison in the 3rd round, he was first CHL pick the Bruins made since Jack Studnicka/Daniel Bukac in 2017.

okay sanford 2nd round prospect had 3 points in 26 games with washington. was 23 years old at the time. a first a conditional 2nd and a contract dump in brad malone. how is that a top prospect? its not even more than the above trade and shattenkirk was a 56 point defender that year. conditional 2nd was around resigning or making the ecf and shatty played in half of the games in first 2 rounds with even crazier conditions following a potential ufa rights trade...

1st, non conditional 3rd a former 1st round prospect and a former 2nd round prospect. im failing to see why hertl demands the largest return as a rental duchene who i mentioned above got a 1st, a 3rd and a 6th shatty got a 1st a former 2nd round prospect and a conditional 2nd which didnt convey because they didnt make the finals. so the shatty return ended up being a 1st sanford and malone... thats the equivalent of a first studnicka and wagner...

Yeah, they do draft wierd, it's also not bad considering that Vaakaneinen is an okay defenseman and you want an NHL player out of the draft but the 2015 draft looks incredibly bad in hindsight, Debrusk is a good player but man that "retool" was really bad.

Duchene got a first, a conditional first, a third, and a top prospect, rentals get a lot more than you say, that's my point.

conditional first was around resigning. which isnt allowed anymore. he didnt get a top prospect lol.

we know lol. debrusk is a 20/20 player though which isnt terrible. zboril can play he was really finding his game this year before the ACL injury. i hope he can bounce back, he was looking like he had top 4 potential, his game was really good. I still think senyshyn is worth something hes just not getting a chance to prove it.

Duchene got a first, a conditional first, a third, and a top prospect, rentals get a lot more than you say, that's my point.

Yeah he did, Vitaly Abromov was one of Columbuses top prospects at that time and is still one of Ottawa's top prospects.

In what world was Vitaly Abramov a top prospect?

They need to be let out of Boston because something is not working. Debrusk on a good team is probably middle six too.

abramov is 23 turning 24 has played a combined 5 games in the nhl and is coming off of a 17 point in 41 game season in the khl. I definitely wouldnt currently call that a top prospect. not even close. if you think thats a top prospect i dont know what to tell you. at the time columbus traded him he was in the Q maybe he was rated higher then because he was having solid years in the Q... that didnt really translate though otherwise wouldnt abramov be here? ottawa brought him to the ahl and he didnt perform that well immediately. then he had 2 decent ahl years. and now hes on their reserve list in the khl without a contract. so whats wrong with him?

There is many websites that rank Abromov as one of Ottawa’s top prospects /:

and studnicka and vaak would be one of bostons top prospects... doesnt make any of the above top prospects in the league.

Yeah, they do draft wierd, it's also not bad considering that Vaakaneinen is an okay defenseman and you want an NHL player out of the draft but the 2015 draft looks incredibly bad in hindsight, Debrusk is a good player but man that "retool" was really bad.

I don’t think Lyell is considered a top ten prospect in the league.

I don’t think Lyell is considered a top ten prospect in the league.