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Rebuilding around petey Hughes demko

Créé par: RC333
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2022
Publié: 20 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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VAN
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Newhook, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Canucks get young center and rhd which addresses their needs
COL
  1. Miller, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
Colorado gets an absolute beast who's cost controlled and plays in all situations. Could be a Kadri replacement too
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VAN
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Rask is a cap dump to make money work. Late first and Addison seems fair. I personally think this makes Minnesota a cup contender. Plus horvat is young enough to be on their team long term
MIN
  1. Horvat, Bo
Détails additionnels:
Minnesota gets a center to play with kaprizov who can play in any situation
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VAN
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Myers, Tyler
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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    VAN
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 48
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    avs instantly reject this trade.
    Newhook is not available
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 50
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    if ur rebuilding, why wouldn't you retain 50% on myers and trade him to a contender get a 1st rounder for him
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 51
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    Quoting: coga16
    avs instantly reject this trade.
    Newhook is not available


    Sakic literally said they have to make a big move because they need to take the next step with this roster. Probably cuz Kadri will be too expensive to re-sign. Miller addresses your teams needs and he's q top line Center that plays in all situations and is over ppg. A late first, newhook ( mid first) and barron ( 2nd) is completely fair.
    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 52
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    if ur rebuilding, why wouldn't you retain 50% on myers and trade him to a contender get a 1st rounder for him


    Could def do that, I was thinking more of a cap dump. But doing that would get more value out of him
    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 52
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    Avs decline. They won’t trade Newhook. Myers has some value so you don’t have to trade him as a cap dump (likely only a 5th or so)
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 53
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    If you did those other trades(assuming the other teams would do them since this is all hypothetical) why pay to dump Myers when you have plenty of cap space, just wasting assets for nothing.

    Also I think Vancouver rebuilding is a bad idea, they need to add talent, not waste years of Demko, Hughes, Petey and others hoping that a bunch of collected draft picks amount to anything.
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 53
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    Sakic literally said they have to make a big move because they need to take the next step with this roster. Probably cuz Kadri will be too expensive to re-sign. Miller addresses your teams needs and he's q top line Center that plays in all situations and is over ppg. A late first, newhook ( mid first) and barron ( 2nd) is completely fair.


    Sakic did not say that at all.
    He said he would be open to moving his 1st round pick at the deadline

    And sakic also says he is never intesrted in trading top young talent for rentals, which that is what miller is bc you only have him for 1 year

    This is the easiest and fastest decline for an overpayment of a player
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 53
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    Minnesota says no. We aren't trading for a player who flat out hasn't been good and is a free agent next year who Minnesota wouldn't be able to keep. Addison isn't available, and isn't getting traded.
    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 54
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    Flyers don't need a goalie, they will be looking to deal Jones and have Sandstrom and Fedotov as potential back up options next year.
    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 55
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    Quoting: RC333
    Sakic literally said they have to make a big move because they need to take the next step with this roster. Probably cuz Kadri will be too expensive to re-sign. Miller addresses your teams needs and he's q top line Center that plays in all situations and is over ppg. A late first, newhook ( mid first) and barron ( 2nd) is completely fair.


    There’s a way to make a move without including Newhook. They aren’t doing this, and I don’t think Miller is worth that much.
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 57
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    There’s a way to make a move without including Newhook. They aren’t doing this, and I don’t think Miller is worth that much.


    sakic also didnt say any of that stuff, he is straight up making stuff up to justify his homer trade
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 57
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    Like the Colorado trade but I don't think Newhook will be available. I like Barron and a first snd maybe pluck Olausson instead.

    Minnesota deal is not enough for Horvat. Has to be more IMO. Need Lambos, Johnasson, Beckman and 1st type of deal.
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    20 févr. 2022 à 12 h 58
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    20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 7
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    If you did those other trades(assuming the other teams would do them since this is all hypothetical) why pay to dump Myers when you have plenty of cap space, just wasting assets for nothing.

    Also I think Vancouver rebuilding is a bad idea, they need to add talent, not waste years of Demko, Hughes, Petey and others hoping that a bunch of collected draft picks amount to anything.


    You're right, I was just doing an alternate spin
    20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 10
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    sakic also didnt say any of that stuff, he is straight up making stuff up to justify his homer trade


    Bro literally pay attention to your team, it seems like I pay more attention to them than you. They did an interview with Sakic, check it out.

    Giroux wants to go to the avs but I think it would be smarter to go with a cost controlled Miller who can play in every situation and is just flat out better.
    20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 27
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    Bro literally pay attention to your team, it seems like I pay more attention to them than you. They did an interview with Sakic, check it out.

    Giroux wants to go to the avs but I think it would be smarter to go with a cost controlled Miller who can play in every situation and is just flat out better.


    Perhaps you could link this interview so people could read it?
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    20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 58
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    Bro literally pay attention to your team, it seems like I pay more attention to them than you. They did an interview with Sakic, check it out.

    Giroux wants to go to the avs but I think it would be smarter to go with a cost controlled Miller who can play in every situation and is just flat out better.


    bro I am fully in tuned with my teams, Sakic never once said the words that you claim he did, you are trying to make a bigger statement out of nothing. During his midseason presser he never said "have to make a big move because they need to take the next step with this roster"
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    20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 58
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    Perhaps you could link this interview so people could read it?


    he cant bc it never happened
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    20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 18
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    You're expecting either too much or the wrong pieces from the wrong teams to make this work
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    20 févr. 2022 à 16 h 5
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    Quoting: Canucks1972
    Like the Colorado trade but I don't think Newhook will be available. I like Barron and a first snd maybe pluck Olausson instead.

    Minnesota deal is not enough for Horvat. Has to be more IMO. Need Lambos, Johnasson, Beckman and 1st type of deal.


    You won't get that out of Colorado either!
    21 févr. 2022 à 5 h 8
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    You won't get that out of Colorado either!


    Or Minnesota. That much for a UFA next year that they can't resign. Unfortunately no.
    21 févr. 2022 à 6 h 13
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    Avs decline. They won’t trade Newhook. Myers has some value so you don’t have to trade him as a cap dump (likely only a 5th or so)


    So many people still don't get it with Myers do they
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    Quoting: MNWildFan57
    Or Minnesota. That much for a UFA next year that they can't resign. Unfortunately no.


    If it was Lambos, Hunt, O'Rourke, Beckman, or Khusnutdinov, it would be okay
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    Like the Colorado trade but I don't think Newhook will be available. I like Barron and a first snd maybe pluck Olausson instead.

    Minnesota deal is not enough for Horvat. Has to be more IMO. Need Lambos, Johnasson, Beckman and 1st type of deal.


    The Wild value Addison more than those other guys because he is one of their few RHD prospects
     
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