Miller to NYR Trade Rumour

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Créé par: hockeybadger

Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2022

Publié: 9 févr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Rumours come from Frank Seravalli's "Trade Deadline War Room – Metropolitan Division Objectives" piece at Daily Faceoff. Please note that it obviously won't be all these assets going one way. Just wanted to note all the piece that Frank said are potentially in play.

If the Rangers want to make this deal done and a 2022 1st, Schneider +++ didn't get it done (as per Satiar Shah at Sportsnet 650), I wonder if a Kakko and Schneider offer moves the needle.

Anyways, looks like we are in for a spicy next few weeks!

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	71 985 659 $	648 780 $	5 600 000 $	9 514 341 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (200 000 $$200K) AG, AD RFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Kakko, Kaapo 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AD RFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 3	Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3
Highmore, Matthew 725 000 $725 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Lammikko, Juho 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Motte, Tyler 1 225 000 $1 225 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Schneider, Braden 925 000 $925 000 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 5
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 3	Georgiev, Alexandar 2 425 000 $2 425 000 $ G UFA - 1
Hunt, Brad 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Dowling, Justin 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2		Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2		Hamonic, Travis 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Halák, Jaroslav 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (1 500 000 $$2M) G NMC UFA - 1		Sutter, Brandon 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
		Keeper, Brady 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2
		Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4

9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 47

SamTheGoalie

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Miller should stay boeser should go

9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 49

Masonh618

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Seravalli is insane then. (Yes, I know he means that it wouldn't be everyone in that package)

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 49

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Holy overpay

9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 49

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Quoting: SamTheGoalie

Miller should stay boeser should go

Boeser won't get you this haul though

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 50

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Quoting: Datsyukian

Holy overpay

Did you read the description or just jump to the comments after seeing the trade?

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 50

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Kakko + Schneider and we build a statue

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 55

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Makes no sense for Rangers cap wise.

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 57

dlt_hfu2847whsba

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No chance the Rangers trade Kakko or Schneider for Miller.

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9 févr. 2022 à 14 h 59

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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028

No chance the Rangers trade Kakko or Schneider for Miller.

If you choose to ignore all facts and intensifying rumours then sure.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 1

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Quoting: palhal

Makes no sense for Rangers cap wise.

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 2

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Us Canucks fans

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 2

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Quoting: telmax

If you choose to ignore all facts and intensifying rumours then sure.

What are the facts? I'm only seeing rumors.

There is absolutely no reason the Rangers would trade their top prospects/young players for a top 6 winger who is signed for one more year. Would probably go down as one of the worst short sighted trades of all time.

I guarantee at the trade deadline Kakko and Schneider will still be Rangers. And Miller most likely will not be a Ranger (doesn't make sense for our cap situation anyway).

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 3

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Quoting: telmax

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

They need Strome, so they'll be resigning him. And we still have Shattenkirk money next year.

9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 7

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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028

Literally read this. They have huge interest in him and these are the assets available.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/frank-seravalli-nhl-trade-deadline-war-room-metropolitan-division-objectives/

9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 8

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Quoting: telmax

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

Thanks fo proving my point. Rangers certainly don't want to carry over any bonus money into next season with next years near flat cap. Nice that 4.5m and Lundqvist 1.1m dead cap come off the books, but the Rangers have inked Zibs and Fox to 14m raises alone.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 8

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Rangers would have to throw in Fox too

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 9

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Quoting: RDRausch93

Rangers would have to throw in Fox too

And Shesterkin

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 13

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Quoting: telmax

Literally read this. They have huge interest in him and these are the assets available.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/frank-seravalli-nhl-trade-deadline-war-room-metropolitan-division-objectives/

I read it, and I do trust Seravalli most of the time. But this is clearly intel mixed with speculation. "Pieces potentially in play" and a subsequent list of 6 players/picks is not a "fact" about what is available lol.

I have no doubt the Rangers are interested and intrigued with Miller. Doesn't mean it'll happen.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 13

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Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 15

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Quoting: saysthemachine

Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

A decade of heartache will do that to you

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 21

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Quoting: palhal

So it's really impossible to sign three bottom six forwards, bottom pairing defenseman, a back up goalie for $7M??? (Miller at 50%)

Even at his full cap that's still $4,375,000 for those players.

The only RFAs are Kravstov (who's probably gone), Hajek (probably not getting a big raise), Georgiev (most likely traded) and Sammy Blais (probably not a big raise if any either).

It doesn't take an economics degree to realize that you can make this easily work.

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 23

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Quoting: saysthemachine

Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

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9 févr. 2022 à 15 h 26

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Quoting: telmax

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

Ignore them man just let them believe what they want to

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9 févr. 2022 à 16 h 12

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Quoting: telmax

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

Believing information put out there for clicks, likely fed to him from Van (NYR have their own mouthpieces that are not Frank) = gassing themselves up.

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9 févr. 2022 à 16 h 20

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Quoting: telmax

Doesn't take an economics degree to know how to figure the NHL salary cap. But you refuse to recognize how bonuses are paid. Try making salary cap a for 22/23 Rangers. I noticed you think in your BS response to me, you suddenly changed Miller to 50% retention. Nice.

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