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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 19 h 36
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 49
Sujet: Fair offer for buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>My friend. Forget "fair". Think of the specific pieces that would convince the Blues to come off Buch. This assortment is presumably not gonna resonate with Army.</div></div>

You've said elsewhere that they would want a dman. You're getting a good defense prospect in this + a reclamation project that could still pan out in Podkolzin (can swap him with Raty if a C is preferred) + Garland who is a solid middle 6 player for the short term + a couple of picks that can either be used in the draft or used to acquire younger players that fit the blues core of Thomas and Kyrou.

Willander isn't getting dealt and you're not likely to get a Willander type prospect from anyone. Those guys are very very rarely traded. St Louis could ultimately just keep Buch but I think this offer would be right there with the best of offers.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 45
Sujet: Moving Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GreatWhiteNorth</b></div><div>Way too much for Vancouver to pay here. No chance there’s a possibility of 2 1st round picks plus 2 quality prospects plus a roster player.. I understand asking for more to start negotiations but realistically take out the 2nd and the conditions and 1 of the prospects.

This is just way too rich for anyone to consider.</div></div>

I mean the 2 1sts only happen if Van is in the Stanley Cup Finals. I'd say the trade paid off if that is the case and wouldn't worry about the late 1st being tacked on. Garland is in here as a cap casualty. He is a solid player but in order for Van to improve the top 6 he is unfortunately the guy that needs to be involved so I don't put any value on him being included in this deal. So that leaves you at a good defense prospect + a reclamation project in Podkolzin + a 1st + a 2nd. It isn't a cheap price but Buch is a damn good player that would make a difference for two playoff runs. Have to give to get. If you drop the 2nd round pick and one of Brustewicz or Podkolzin there is no chance Blues consider.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 34
Sujet: Fair offer for buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Meier was a few years younger, a pending RFA who wanted to be in NJ and was going to sign long-term (and probably better overall player…but I am biased). Buchnevich is 2-year rental…and next contract starts at age 30.</div></div>

Oh I know. Meier should have more value than Buch. The trade isn't exactly the same but just emulating it. SJ got another decent young dman in that Meier deal and also sent back a 5th rather than the 3rd coming back in this one. I do value the idea of Buch on this roster at 5.8mil for two playoff runs quite a bit here. It isn't the perfect comparison but given not wanting to trade Lekkerimaki or Willander in this deal I figured that trade had a solid framework to it to build this one off of.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 5
Sujet: Fair offer for buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffdaddy</b></div><div>If the Blues were completely out of the playoff picture this would be hard to turn down, assuming Buch isn't part of the long term plans. That's a big if though.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>It seems like a reasonable blueprint to me. The people that will tell you otherwise probably just value keeping Buch over trading him. Because realistically it's tough to pull premium assets in any trade. I could see the Blues locking in on Willander and then maybe it just goes nowhere. In terms of "this is the most VAN can put up" I think you're pretty accurate.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Bit of overpay…I’d add a little retention and take out 2nd</div></div>

I've roughly emulated the Timo Meir trade with this offer. I know it is a lot to give up and dependant on long term plans for buch as well as where St Louis is at come the deadline but I just really think Buch is the type of difference maker the Canucks need on the wing and will elevate them into a contender out of the west.

Mukhamdulim = brustewicz
Johansson = Garland
Zetturlund = Podkolzin
1st + conditional 2nd
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 57
Sujet: Moving Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>I would argue that Buchnevich is worth way more than 1 Prospect (excluding Willander and Lekkermari), Garland and a 1st. Especially if there is retention.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GreatWhiteNorth</b></div><div>I’m not saying he’s not, but there’s definitely a middle ground between that kinda offer and the one posted. The one posted is similar to Eichel value if not more and Buchnevich is not on the same level at all.</div></div>

This offer is roughly emulating the Timo Meir trade.

Mukhamdulim = brustewicz
Johansson = Garland
Zetturlund = Podkolzin
1st + conditional 2nd.

There were some other minor pieces to that trade but essentially the base of it. I know Meir was a bit younger and pending RFA but with Buch you get a year and a half at a lower cap hit.
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 0 h 3
Sujet: Willy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Why? Because he had a really good 17 games to start the season? That trumps everything else that's happened in his career or what's been happening in the league? He's not Pastrnak who's been way better for a lot longer. Willy has had 1 40 goal season and 1 point per game season. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing and I want him resigned but this whole adding a million to his "asking" price every month of the season is just silly. That's now how negotiations work. Just as an example of how silly this is, all you guys on here are saying Willy will only sign for 11 or more now. And yet, not many think Petterson will get more than 11. How does that work? Petterson is a centre and he's younger and he's produced more than Nylander and somehow Nylander is getting the same pay? Or is Petterson getting 13 because he is a top 5 player in the game?

I am fully prepared to hear "because Toronto over pays their stars" argument or the tax issue and both of those are just nonsense statements that ignore all rationality. Bonus money is as big an advantage as lower tax states and they don't overpay their stars. They got market fair deals at the time they signed them. Cap percentages at the time of their signings prove this. No one could have predicted a global pandemic would come and cause the cap to be flat. Ignoring that is just blatant sensationalism.

Nylander is a terrific player and I truly believe he has a 50 goal 100 point season in him maybe 2 but he'll be signing for less 10 million for 8 years. He wants to play in TO and they want to sign him. It'll happen</div></div>

Nylander ain't taking less than Marner. He got screwed on his last deal compared to Matthews and Marner the next year. He's taking what is due to him. Sorry you can't come to terms with that.