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Créé par: Knuckl3s
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 14 janv. 2022
Publié: 14 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
42 250 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
51 450 000 $
3850 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. Senyshyn, Zach [Droits de RFA]
  4. Steen, Oskar [Droits de RFA]
  5. Wagner, Chris
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $76 301 667 $1 250 000 $1 150 000 $6 198 333 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
UFA
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1

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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 38
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If you're going to trade him there has to be at least one solid prospect coming back. This deal is full of question marks
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 40
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
If you're going to trade him there has to be at least one solid prospect coming back. This deal is full of question marks


There's a 1st rounder, and Studnicka is a solid prospect isn't he? What about JFK?

I know Senyshyn and Wagner don't really have any value, but Debrusk has some value
14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 41
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He's a rental Mr. Benning, not Wayne Gretzky...
No GM will give you 6 assets of anykind for 1 guy not named McDavid.
14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
There's a 1st rounder, and Studnicka is a solid prospect isn't he? What about JFK?

I know Senyshyn and Wagner don't really have any value, but Debrusk has some value


Studnicka is 22 and hasn't shown anything. Probably has a ceiling as a 3rd liner, more likely to never become a full time nhler. JFK is 25 and putting up poor numbers in the SHL, likely never comes back to North America.

Debrusk has some value as a reclamation project but you don't trade a guy like Miller for a reclamation project unless that's a throw in to the core of a deal.
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: McGruff
He's a rental Mr. Benning, not Wayne Gretzky...
No GM will give you 6 assets of anykind for 5 months of service at best till UFA.


I’m assuming this trade takes place this year due to the 2022 first round pick which means Boston would get Miller for 1.5 years. People are forgetting he still has another year on his contract. Also there really aren’t any pieces of value so it doesn’t make sense for either sides
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 46
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Quoting: McGruff
He's a rental Mr. Benning, not Wayne Gretzky...
No GM will give you 6 assets of anykind for 1 guy not named McDavid.


He isn't a rental. He has another year on his deal. Also there's nothing of significant value in those 6 pieces.
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 46
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Quoting: Juiceman
I’m assuming this trade takes place this year due to the 2022 first round pick which means Boston would get Miller for 1.5 years. People are forgetting he still has another year on his contract. Also there really aren’t any pieces of value so it doesn’t make sense for either sides


Made an adjust/edit...JT has term I missed.
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 47
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
He isn't a rental. He has another year on his deal. Also there's nothing of significant value in those 6 pieces.


See above edit...you guys are too fast LOL....
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 48
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A bunch of scraps and a late 1st isn’t nearly enough. For Boston it would have to involve Lysell + a 1st or Carlo
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14 janv. 2022 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
He isn't a rental. He has another year on his deal. Also there's nothing of significant value in those 6 pieces.


Some scraps sure...(ZS, CW, JFK)
a) Deep draft and BOS is likely a mid-round team thus let's call it between 10-15th place pick in 1st (big time value)
b) DeBrusk, needs a new home he has decent stats: JD: 272Gms/72G & 16 Playoff Goals ((one a series winner (TML) & one a GWG & the most playoff goals of any player drafted in 2015 - the McJesus draft))
c) Stud - unknown, projected as the soild-two-way-guy (Bergy/O'Reilly maybe) he's stuck behind B's centre depth at present.
14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 1
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Just letting you know DeBrusk QA is 4.41 mill
14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 2
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It's funny how even some Vancouver fans underestimate Miller.
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14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 14
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If you're going to trade Miller, you should get something good for him. A 1st and a bunch of questionable prospects or mediocre player isn't good. I'd want Carlo + draft picks from Boston for Miller.
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14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 24
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Quoting: audiodave
If you're going to trade Miller, you should get something good for him. A 1st and a bunch of questionable prospects or mediocre player isn't good. I'd want Carlo + draft picks from Boston for Miller.


Said it before - w/ VAN & Miller:Carlo at 1:1 is a non-starter.
D wins championships [period].
Moreover, all his metrics (icetime, usage (esp. PK), age, contract/term & wears an "A" on a team stacked w/ leaders) - make him a keeper,
14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: McGruff
Said it before - w/ VAN & Miller:Carlo at 1:1 is a non-starter.
D wins championships [period].
Moreover, all his metrics (icetime, usage (esp. PK), age, contract/term & wears an "A" on a team stacked w/ leaders) - make him a keeper,


Then I guess there's no deal to be made. Trading Miller and not getting a young, top pair RHD back is a non-starter for the Canucks. Honestly, I'd rather keep Miller and resign him in a couple years.
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14 janv. 2022 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: audiodave
Then I guess there's no deal to be made. Trading Miller and not getting a young, top pair RHD back is a non-starter for the Canucks. Honestly, I'd rather keep Miller and resign him in a couple years.


Well said, Van-Bos is not the trade for Miller-Carlo.
BOS current need sequence is 1) a #1-2LD & 2) a #2C.
I like Miller, but BOS doesn't move Carlo for his services. If JT was a yr/two younger & had another yr/two term then the discussion likely goes alot further...
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14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
Studnicka is 22 and hasn't shown anything. Probably has a ceiling as a 3rd liner, more likely to never become a full time nhler. JFK is 25 and putting up poor numbers in the SHL, likely never comes back to North America.

Debrusk has some value as a reclamation project but you don't trade a guy like Miller for a reclamation project unless that's a throw in to the core of a deal.


I'm curious since you seem to know enough about the situation. Based on what, is Studnicka "more likely to never become a full time nhler"?
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: McGruff
He's a rental Mr. Benning, not Wayne Gretzky...
No GM will give you 6 assets of anykind for 1 guy not named McDavid.


JFK, Senyshyn, and Wagner aren’t assets. As a bruins fan who really really likes studnicka, i think this is okay.
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 32
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
JFK, Senyshyn, and Wagner aren’t assets. As a bruins fan who really really likes studnicka, i think this is okay.


I don't share that, oh well.
As I mentioned in #10 post above ^ ^ ^ on the scraps/assets yadda yadda...
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 36
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Then I guess there's no deal to be made. Trading Miller and not getting a young, top pair RHD back is a non-starter for the Canucks. Honestly, I'd rather keep Miller and resign him in a couple years.


Miller won't accept a short-term deal on his next contract
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: Fjordy
It's funny how even some Vancouver fans underestimate Miller.


We just don't want to overestimate him, I was more underestimating Boston's assets than I was Miller himself
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: aadoyle
Just letting you know DeBrusk QA is 4.41 mill


I know
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
We just don't want to overestimate him, I was more underestimating Boston's assets than I was Miller himself


Overestimate? But mostly I see an underestimation given his stats, contract and versatility. These players are worth at least 1st + a very good prospect or comparable player for the position Canucks want. I don't see anything interesting in your trade other than 1st and it certainly doesn't move the needle.
14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Fjordy
Overestimate? But mostly I see an underestimation given his stats, contract and versatility. These players are worth at least 1st + a very good prospect or comparable player for the position Canucks want. I don't see anything interesting in your trade other than 1st and it certainly doesn't move the needle.


I changed up the package, I was more overestimating the likes of Studnicka and JFK
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14 janv. 2022 à 22 h 47
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Miller won't accept a short-term deal on his next contract


I wouldn't expect him to.
 
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