Not willing to trade Marat for a rental! A player so close to free agency is going to test it!

Not a rental. Signed for 6 years...

That's not enough incentive there for the Jets to move Demelo at the TDL. If that's all they're getting I would imagine they just wait until the off season and move him then if they need cap space and see if they can get more.

Yep, as I said, I have no idea of his value. What would the price be?

That guy is a homer who doesn’t want to move anyone, they’re all untouchable or not worth the return. This is more than a fair deal if the extension is agreed to after the trade, if he’s being traded with a deal in place the sharks are going to want more. Not sure Hertl will sign that low unless he loves minny, he has said he would take a team friendly deal for a good team to be a contender.

Hertl isn’t going to sign 6x6. Why would he do that? You’d be looking around 7M on a 7-8 year deal. Think similar to Couts.

Well, in all likelihood, the Jets won't sell at the TDL unless the Jets are far out of the playoff picture at that time and even then they might not. If they are sure they are out and are sure they can't keep him next year cap wise, then they might move him if they get an unusually high return, like a 2nd or maybe even a 1st. If not they just wait until the summer when there are more teams looking for help.

Not 6x6, but 6x6,68. There is a difference of over half a million there. He may want to sign it to join a contender. I believe Hertl likes to win more than to squeeze a few thousand dollars extra. You could make it a five-year deal so he could cash in big one more time at 33yo, though.

Couturier is not a similar player to Hertl, and had already won a Selke when he signed, so he is not a great comparable.

Ahhh yes, Jordie Benn

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Well, then the Wild look for help elsewhere. The Jets should be sellers IMO, though. I don't think it's worth it to try and make the playoffs just to get clapped in the 1st round.

Honestly, I agree with this. But given that we have Rossi, I don't think a long-term contract should be signed. A better route in my opinion would be a shorter-term contract around 3 year's at $6M would be more attractive to both sides. Wild then have the center depth they need, but at a price they can afford. Hertl helps put us over the top, can compete for the Cup on a good team, and gets another crack at UFA where he can get one more stab at a payday.

5 year deal would increase his AAV and why would he take a discount to play for Minnesota? That deadcap buyout blooms for you guys so if i’m Hertl that’s a red flag. Hertl is pretty close to Couts and if you don’t like that comparison let’s just look at the other center on that team (Hayes ~7.15M). I think it goes without saying Couts took a hometown discount on that contract. Just ask any SJ fan about the value Hertl brings with his 200ft game.

Thats a good value for Hertl deal. I did want Marat when he was drafted.

That may well be the case, though I'm not sure they would trade a serviceable defenseman with term to a division rival. They might want ship him elsewhere.

I wouldn’t want it sign him long term either. He has had two knee injuries which have already had an impact on his speed. He is still really good at what he does and his style of play. If he’s signing for 3 years I don’t see him going for $6 mil though. If he hits free agency he will make $8 mil so somewhere in the middle I’d imagine he signs for.

Then how about a 3 year deal? Then he could sign somewhere while being 31. We'd also get our dead cap lifted the same year so if we happen to win the Cup, we'd be able to afford him. We can't afford to sign Hertl for more money and if we trade for him as a rental, you ain't getting Khusnutdinov.

Hertl has had better production throughout his career compared to Hayes too so I wouldn’t be surprised if he made more.

Yup, I can understand. But if the Jets can get more in the off season then they might as well do that. Demelo isn't a rental, so they don't have to rush it.

In a word.

Kaprizov...

And the fact that Minnesota is far closer to contention than San Jose is. The Wild also have a plethora of young ELC's that can help offset the buyouts. Both Rossi and Boldy are making their debuts against Boston on Thursday. Rossi probably only gets a 9 game tryout due to the fact that his contract can slide, but Boldy probably stays. Rossi will be on the team next year though.

I’m not a SJ fan. SJ would look to get the best possible return so Minnesota’s cap issues are really on them because teams are going to offer a decent package for a center of his caliber. I just know that deadcap shoots up to around 14M and you still have to deal with Fiala + Greenway so I’m just questioning if this is the best route for Minnesota to go.


Without a doubt, I think he signs 7.X * 7 with a team all day.

You can say that about a lot of teams though what about the NYR/BOS/etc. I wouldn’t bet on a player to take a discount on a team he has no loyalty/connection with. Did Mark Stone take a discount to go to a low tax state on a contender? Did Kaprizov take a discount to play in Minny?

gophersbenj has to be the same as all those other ones right? Mira I and dumba and brodin and whomever else he has for bogus accounts.

But he's going to test free agency. Player's like him will never ever sign before being so close

You can't agree to a deal with a trade, you ate forgetting that. You aren't a homer? Always thinking a rental will set the market like never seen before. Tomas h is a free agent. Just because he plays a certain position doesn't mean he will set market for a rental

In this fictional scenario the San Jose Sharks forward Tomas Hertl will sign that deal committing to the Minnesota Wild.