Lol no

These Weber deals aren’t happening…

Well you’ll have to pay a lot of money then

Why are all Habs fans so convinced Weber is going to voluntarily retire and give up millions of dollars, instead of staying on LTIR? He's too injured to likely ever play again, and that's what LTIR is for.

That’s true but if the league see that the player has a staff role he could be in trouble

There's nothing preventing a player on LTIR taking a front office job. Chris Pronger worked as a scout for the Flyers, then the Dept. of Player Safety, while still on LTIR.

oh I tough otherwise! Thank you for the info mate! 🙃

No, we're not trading Comtois for Drouin. We still haven't seen what Max's ceiling is, but Drouin has topped out.

Not really. Insurance pays $6 million for this year. Then the $3,1,1,1 million he’s owed over the following 4 years is chump change for an NHL team.

It's not without reason. Weber has already had to jump through extra hoops to remain on LTIR. They will keep him rehabbing and evaluating throughout.
He has one $3M season left. After that, it may be more of an inconvenience than it's worth to him.

He could also be disqualified from LTIR at any time. He doesn't have a singular chronic or debilitating injury as is usually the case. He has an accumulation of smaller injuries.

If Weber is unable to remain on LTIR and/or chooses to retire, Nashville gets full recapture penalties. If Weber is on their LTIR for a period of time before retiring, that penalty is reduced.

TB has no cap space and isn't waiving Foote or Katchouk to try to send them down to add either of these guys.
Colorado doesn't do that either. No way they're counting on a person with addiction issues who been good but certainly not elite.

Even in the final years of his contract, Weber get $1M. Are a couple extra doctors visits such an imposition that he'd give up that much money to avoid them?

To me it seems an accumulation of injuries makes it less likely he ever plays again. Having one injury preventing him from playing is a situation that could resolve itself. Having numerous injuries keeping him off the ice decreases the chance of him ever being able to resume his career.

Are you talking about Price?

LTIR is insured and regulated. Like anything else, only qualified conditions make you eligible. Concussions are eligible. General soreness or stiffness may not be.
Like I said, the league is already carefully monitoring. They couldn't dismiss the possibility of him returning for the playoffs. Obviously that's off the table now, but it wasn't a simple matter to get him on LTIR, which tells me there is/was doubt about qualifying him.
$1M (much less due to taxes and escrow), might be worth it to me or you, but to a guy that is already a multi-millionaire and wants to retire in peace, that's nothing.

A million dollars a year isn't nothing, even for someone like Weber who's already earned much more than that. Tons of retired players who've already gotten rich take jobs paying a fraction of that, after their playing careers are over.

Weber's recapture hit isn't an issue for NSH unless he officially retires. There's no upside for Weber to do that, and no reason to think he'll ever be healthy enough to lose his LTIR status. Even if Weber decides to retire for whatever reason, NSH gets penalized the same whether he retires as a Hab or a Pred. Trading for Weber doesn't do much for NSH, as the NHL isn't going to be OK with NSH trying to hide Weber on LTIR if he no longer qualifies.

Yes the last couple years Price hasn't been elite and he's in the NHLPA player assistance program for an admitted addiction problem.

You’re making an argument for Nashville not to trade for him. If he’s unwilling to stay on ltir during the 1M years it doesn’t benefit Nashville at all in terms of recapture. If he’s willing to stay on ltir for 1M then he can and will do it in Montreal

Its simple, he has made $122million in his career. only owed $6nillion on remainder of his contract. After taxes and escrow its only 2.5M. So he doesn't care about the rest. He was never going to finish that contract. that's why the league implemented the penalty in the first place .

It's amazing to me that you can assume Weber doesn't care about millions of dollars, regardless of how much he's already earned. It's one thing to say he wouldn't be willing to put his body through the rigors of an NHL season for $1M, but why would he voluntarily give up that money when he's entitled to it without having to play?

Aside from the unlikelihood of Weber voluntarily retiring for no reason, I still don't understand the belief that NSH will give MTL a massive return for Weber. NSH can't artificially keep Weber on LTIR if he doesn't qualify, anymore than MTL can compel him to retire with no benefit to himself. If Weber gets healthy enough that he doesn't qualify for LTIR and decides to retire, there isn't much NSH can do about it. Having him retire as a Pred instead of a Hab doesn't help NSH.

I think Price has been elite, it’s just that we had a **** defence for a couple of years

I'm not saying it is likely, but we don't know the circumstances or his mindset. For the next 3+ years, Nashville is left with uncertainty. Even if there's only a chance of him not finishing his contract, they are better off owning it. My point is that there is sufficient reason to speculate on Weber's contract being traded to Nashville.
Gorton might ask him to retire at any time and give him his same salary in a different role just to get him off the books. Nashville has no control of that while he is in Montreal.
What a trade might involve is a different matter, but there is merit to the idea.

The defense has been decent Price has been good . The offense has just not been able to score at the bunny ranch with a fist full of $100 bills for crying out loud

True ahahah

Sorry, but you can't argue that we don't know Weber's mindset, while simultaneously stating that the remaining millions on his contract mean nothing to him, as was previously stated in this thread. Either we can read his mind, or we can't.

As for the idea that Gorton gives Weber the equivalent of the remainder of his contract to retire through a front office job, that's very far fetched. As I mentioned above, Weber can take a non-playing NHL job while still remaining on LTIR. And even an owner with deep pockets would surely balk at paying a million or more per year for a scout, or executive VP of media relations, or whatever. Especially when Weber doesn't cost the Habs anything right now, with insurance paying his salary. No gets a million dollars for those types of front office jobs.

I'm only illustrating that there are numerous possibilities. The only one that mitigates the risk to Nashville is acquiring his contract. They can choose to accept the risk, but there are at least things to consider and therefore it's worth discussing.

There's just no real upside for NSH to re-acquire Weber. Remaining on LTIR like he presumably will doesn't hurt them. If Weber retires, it doesn't make a difference to NSH if he does so as a Hab or a Pred. NSH can't artificially keep Weber on LTIR if he doesn't merit it. MTL can't do much to compel Weber to retire prematurely, in hopes of extorting NSH.