Two 1st for two rentals? No thanks. Doesn’t make sense for the Oilers to go all in this year.

Also I’m taking Barrie 11 days out of 10 over Miller

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Barrie is absolutely awful. He's horrible defensively and Bouchard easily replaces him as a better 5v5 point producer on the right side who, if given the chance, could likely produce at the same rate on the PP. Barrie gives up way more than he produces and it's not even close. As far as not going all in this year, when is it that you're going to do it then? The Oilers are backed up against a wall in terms of cap space for next season. If they can get solid goaltending I don't see any reason to not go all in.

If Barrie is absolutely awful, why are we giving up a pick for him?

Of course Detroit says yes.

Sharks aren’t taking a late first the next year and a third for a top center who is their best player.

Got him there lol

not enough for hertl, Wilson wouldn't accept any less than a 1st and top prospect, and that's without retention

Pretty much common sense you don’t go for it all unless you’ve shown you can actually make a run. Once the Oilers show they are consistently going beyond the 1st round; then those 1st pick rentals make sense.

When you have the two best hockey players in the planet on your team, you aren’t thinking about winning one cup. They want to win a few. I get that you gotta win one before you can string some together, but if you put yourself in a position where you don’t have the 1st round talent in your prospect pool coming up once you’re already at the cap limit and your rentals have moved on, that’s not exactly good news. You don’t go trading all future picks when you’ve made it past the 1st round once in the McDavid era.

Pretty much exactly what Tampa did. After a few years of being a top team in the league but not winning it all, they made the moves using their 1sts to push them over the top. Not to mention, they got cheap, high impact players with term left.

Moving the picks like you suggested is nothing short of reckless.

You seriously have to ask that? It's obviously because his point totals are inflated due to being on a powerplay with 97 & 29. This creates perceived value, even though it shouldn't. Teams will 100% wrongly pay a premium for his services.

This is untrue. The Oilers are in a position where they have high end young players who are nearing NHL ready and will be able to contribute for years to come, (Samarukov, Broberg, Holloway, Savoie, Bourgeault, Petrov, Skinner, Konovalov, etc.), What would be wreckless is not going for it and losing McDavid and Draisaitl to unrestricted free agency. Trading picks, when you're hovering around the top of the league and have the cupboards stocked with a lot near-ready prospects, is in no way wreckless. It's just not.

You do realize he's a rental right? Why would any team give up a first AND a top prospect for a rental second line level player?

Not really, Barrie has incorrect perceived value around the league due to his inflated numbers from playing PP with 97 and 29. It's not that complicated.

Hertl is a second line centre with an expiring contract, you're overvaluing him.

It's likely going to be a 27th-32nd overall selection in the draft. It's not that high of a price to pay.

Wow are you ignorant. Barrie is a top-10 offensive defenseman at 5v5 and has been for years. He's played fewer than 82 games in Edmonton and you want to pin a decade's worth of quality hockey on McDavid and Draisaitl? Irrational at best, psychotic at worst.

The ask has been known it’s a first and a top prospect. You are undervaluing him, he’s nearly been ppg over the last couple seasons.

Before coming to Edmonton he put up 0.62 pts per game. Last year he put up 0.86 points per game in Edmonton. Over 82 games that's a 51 point pace compared to a 71 point pace. So clearly he is benefitting from Edmonton's powerplay and it is 100% fact that he is a defensive liability. The guy lead the league in d scoring and didn't even get a single 5th place Norris vote (TERRIBLE DEFENSIVELY). Add that into Evan Bouchard outscoring him this season while not playing any powerplay time and it makes him very expendable.

They can ask what they want, they won't get a 1st and a top prospect for Hertl as a rental. If he has 2 years left on his contract he'd be worth a 1st + a 2nd + a prospect, but not as a rental.

yeah I forgot 2nd line level players score 30 goals and 70 - 75 points is great on faceoffs, plays pp,pk and can play a shutdown role because of his elite defensive game, had hertl played all 82 games over the last 3 seasons he would have averaged 32 goals and 70.5 points ur delusional if u think he's a 2nd line level player. If foligno and savard gets a 1st as rentals hertl whos a fringe top 15 center easily gets a 1st and top prospect considering all of the above and the fact that he is a playoff performer. Delusional lmfao

Well then he can be traded somewhere else.. he’s a high quality player that will cost to get him. The sharks have zero incentive to take your deal retaining half his contract for nothing of great value and the only part of value doesn’t even come until the next year.

Not buffalo

Of course he benefits from the Oilers PP, but you're acting like he wasn't a top-10 offensive defenseman even before he signed with Edmonton, which just isn't true. You don't have to like it, but Barrie has a lot of value at just $4.5M.

if skinner does what binnington did i am winning my fantasty league

which means he won't

sorry