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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri at 1:50 am
Sujet:
Best Possible Line-Up
Yea I generally agree. Jujhar out of the lineup is a must. I am a huge fan of McLeod and really think he needs his extended shot now.
Koekkoek has been a really nice surprise. He does his job extremely well. However, moving him out of the bottom pairing is always a risk. As we saw with guys like Benning and Russell, you move them up and they play more minutes, their flaws and mistakes are really evident. Its not really that big a deal in this case though, since that bottom 4 pretty much plays similar minutes, with Barrie getting his PP looks and Koekkoek and Larsson easting PK minutes.
I agree Ennis should be on the 3rd line and Archibald on the 4th. Ennis has more offensive potential and is less physical. Archibald is a great energy and PK guy. Playing him on the 3rd line with Jesse thus far has been tough. Archibald doesn't help them keep extended offensive zone shifts going. a little bit of a buzzkill.
I think they should really give Puljujarvi a look with McDavid. He's looked really good so far, but a lot of his chances are individual efforts. He doesn't really have a setup guy are anything. Its tough to change McDavids line after he puts up a hattrick, but hopefully soon JP gets a fair look. Kassian hasn't really done a whole lot up there, and I think he is best served on the 3rd line, with the ability to move up and down for shifts. But having said that, Kassian seems to pout a play really carelessly when hes not with McDavid. Not really an easy choice to make.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri at 1:41 am
Sujet:
Trade Deadline Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AJC13</b></div><div>Thank you for your comments! It's great that I could post a trade suggestion from the Rangers point of view and get feedback from EDM fans and their point of view.</div></div>
Hold up, I did not see the 1st round pick. Not sure if I missed it or it was edited after. Oilers gotta be no in that case. McLeod is one of our more developed forward prospects, who imo has decent value on his own. I'm generally against trading 1sts, especially when you aren't getting a great player in return. Buchnevich is good and no doubt a top 6 winger, but he has done anything insane, that would warrent a good prospect and 1st rounder from the Oilers perspective.
Having said that, Goodrow and Coleman both netted a 1st, so the value probably isn't that crazy, just doesn't make sense for the Oilers. Gotta extend guys like Nuge, Nurse and Yamamoto in the next 2 years. If we are moving a 1st, I would prefer it be for someone team controlled on a fair contract. Adding Buchnevichs contract to the mix just complicates that,
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu at 12:24 pm
Sujet:
Trade Deadline Trade
I really like McLeod, but probably gotta say yes, Buchnevich is a solid winger
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu at 1:26 am
Sujet:
Lines plus rant thingy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ngikas</b></div><div>Not even an oilers fan but I just watched that game tonight and was mind boggled how they continued to stuff puljujvari down on the third line. Kassian looks like a beer league player out there on that top line. Part of my criticism is skewed cuz I bet on puljujarvi to have a point tonight lol. But Puljujarvi had a strong game until the hook in the last 2 minutes and when they needed offense Kassian was still out there over him. I just dont see Puljujarvi having success skating along side Archibald and Turris. I understand spreading out the talent but idk I just dont agree with the idea behind tht line up decision. Again not an oils fan so maybe I dont know something about the process their taking with puljujarvi but its something that annoyed me</div></div>
Yea I agree that Puljujarvi had a good game. Its so strange to watch him because he doesn't take quick strides like every other player. He takes 1 stride and is full speed. Its so strange to watch. But yea, he was definitely one of the better forwards for the Oilers. I mentioned on another post, but putting him Archibald and Turris makes no sense. We want him to produce offensively and Archibald, while I like his game, is a 4th line, pk energy guy. I would have liked to see Ennis on that line with them.
As for Kassian, I actually didn't mind him today. HE had a wretched showing in the bubble and I was prepared to be let down again, but I thought he skated well. A couple dumb decisions to look for a pass when he was in the slot and wasn't overly physical, but his play certainly didn't hurt the Oilers.
Its tough to try Puljujarvi right off the bat, since his whole reasoning for going to Finland was partially due to not getting that opportunity, so you don't want to necessarily reward that. Lots of people say that Puljujarvi with McDavid "didn't work the first time", but if I remember correctly, they did indeed have a period of like 10 games where he was almost a ppg. I know small sample size, but I do think it can work.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu at 1:15 am
Sujet:
Lines plus rant thingy
Chaissons main value is that he was as decent pp producer. He had 2 open nets that he didn't bare down on. If he keeps that up, I would agree with you.
Juhjar looked worse than he did the previous 3 seasons, which is saying a lot. I genuinely do not and probably will never understand why he is on the roster year after year.
Koekkoek was easily the best dman today. He looked great. I really like that pickup.
Can't really bench Bear and Barrie. Every single RHD today played really bad. Larsson scored, but he had a night filled with horrible pinches.
The powerplay was appalling to watch, but thats gotta be written up to early season rust. Swapping Klefbom for Barrie doesn't lead to that dramatic a drop.
I would like to see Shore and McLeod both get extended looks over giving Khaira another chance.
Ultimately as someone already said, its just one game. Holtby made several incredible saves and Koskinen could make a save when it counted. Both teams were pretty sloppy, Holtby just played amazing. Crazy how he makes just a little more than Smith.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:41 am
Sujet:
My starting lineup NOT TIPPETT
As the team sits today, this is the exact roster the lineup that I would want (ideally Haas, Shore or potentially McLeod over JJ, but to be honest I haven't really seen any of them play, so tough to judge)
Tipp had Archibald on the 3rd line and Ennis on the 4th, which doesn't really make sense. Archibald is an energy guy and Ennis has more offensive potential to work with JP and Turris. So I like that you switched the two.
D-pairings are great too. I like the idea of Slater in over Russell, although I'm surprised Tipp seems to have that as well. He seemed like he loved Russells game.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 12:14 am
Sujet:
2021 2022 Oilers Wishful Thinking
Nothing unrealistic here in terms of contracts or signings.
It is a little underwhelming that no improvements were made to the forward group. Thats pretty much the exact lineup we'll have opening day this year. And a only a slight change from what we had last season (where depth scoring was a massive issue). It all depends on how they perform this season, but with losing Neal too (like him or not, he's pretty safe for 20 goals with pp time), you could have a hufe problem with depth scoring, which as we saw in the playoffs, is unsustainable.
Thing is theres a 100% chance Bouchard is on the team next year. A pretty good chance he is a regular by the end of this season.
Broberg also would likely be a reasonable candidate next year.
If Barrie has a good season, he'll likely want to cash in with term. If he doesn't, he would opt for a change of scenery. So I don't really see a situation where he resigns at the similar deal he got this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 4:10 pm
Sujet:
Khaira out Ryan in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Pretty sure they can. In fact, that's why I made this AGM - to see if it was possible.
Ryan is 100% better than Haas and he's a sure thing compared with McLeod. IMO McLeod grabbing a spot with both hands is the only reason not to claim Ryan.</div></div>
I'm not arguing whether its financially feasible. Im saying its not a smart way to spend $3M. Paying your 4C that much as opposed to the minimum that Shore, Haas, and McLeod doesn't make sense. Yes, he'd probably be a slight upgrade over those guys, but paying him that can be a huge obstacle in making a trade at the deadline.
Also why did Calgary cut him? Maybe he had a poor offseason and If he's not good enough to make them, why would we want him? Obviously he's regressed in Calgary.
Ultimately I don't think his potentially marginal increase in defensive capabilities over a guy like Shore is worth how his contract could impact improving the team down the line.
Also a very minor addition, but I wouldn't want to help Calgary clear cap space or take a problem off their hands if it doesn't have a clear benefit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 2:51 pm
Sujet:
Khaira out Ryan in
I'd pass. Can't be paying your 4C over $3M. Just can't have that.
im hoping McLeod can steal a spot this year. If not, hopefully Haas returns quickly. JJ has regressed ever year for the last 3 seasons. Im happy he was sent down
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 1:45 pm
Sujet:
Expansion draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>The rule for exemption is under 27 games in one year or 54 games in two year time span. He played 62 last year, meaning he's no exempt from getting picked.
EDM has to pick which one they want to keep, Jones, Kahun or Turris. Naturally they can also try to convince Seattle to take someone else and compensate it with other assets, such as prospects...but I can't see any reality where EDM leaves Klefbom on the table, no matter the injury history. The only way it happens is if Klefbom truly is permanently out or there's a major setback in his recovery process. Which seems unlikely. And if that's the case, naturally SEA won't be picking the guy.
I don't really get why EDM would move Klefbom's contract in the first place. Best case scenario, you get your best D back, worst case scenario, he ends up in LTIR for good and won't affect your cap.</div></div>
This is 100% spot on. Klefbom is criminally underrated, when hes playing healthy. His contract is great too, again when he's healthy. Theres no doubt that his injuries would hinder his value, but thats all the more reason for the Oilers to hold onto him. As you said, worst case scenario he rides it out on the LTIR.
The only reason in the world that he would be exposed in the draft would be if he directly told Holland that he will never play in the NHL again. In that case, moving out his contract is all good.
I highly doubt the Oilers protect Turris. Yes we've been looking for a 3c for a while now. And Turris seems like a great fit. But we have yet to see him play. He was out of favour in NSH, but that was in large part due to his contract. Now that he is on a reasonable deal, we can judge if he's worth it. Not to mention he has 1 year left and he'll be 32. If Seattle really wants a 32 year old soon to be UFA, thats not a crazy loss for the Oilers. By this time next year, you gotta hope that maybe McLeod will be on the team in that role. Worse case here, you get another free agent next season.
Jones is by far the most valuable to the Oilers of those 3. Kahun could join the conversation if he plays well, but for now, its unknown.
*Also this is a side note, but here is one of the rules in the seattle expansion draft.
"Players who missed the final 60 games of the ’20-21 season or who have otherwise been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury cannot be exposed in the draft without league approval"
Im not sure how to interpret this in reference to Klefboms situation. Would he be exempt from the draft, meaning the Oilers don't need to protect him? Or would it mean that the Oilers must protect him?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 1:36 pm
Sujet:
Expansion draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zmach</b></div><div>I have a payment plan for Nudge:
Year 1: one year deal 12 Million
year 2: 4 year 7.5 million AAV extension January 1
Year 6: 3 year 3.5 million AAV extension</div></div>
Did you just project 3 different contracts for Nuge? When has that happened in the history of the league? Nuge will in all likelihood sign one long term deal in the $7M range. This projection is extremely, unnecessarily specific haha
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 1:34 pm
Sujet:
Expansion draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>It's high for a backup. And sending Nurse to CLB to get him is LUDICROUS.</div></div>
Pretty much this. I honestly like the idea of Nurse. But he has never been a starter in the league for an extended period of time. He seems to do a decent job filling in for the starter when he's down, but never really steals the show.
I am not an overly huge Nurse fan, but like it or not, he is the Oilers best dman with Klefbom out. You don't trade that for a backup goalie and a pick. Oilers don't need picks, they need impact players on good deals. I get that you can flip picks for those types of players, but that just complicates the process. Nurse will be players 25 mins a night, given that you have a sophmore in Jones and 3rd pairing Russell behind him on the left side.
This trade straight up makes zero sense for the Oilers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 19 h 22
Sujet:
Still new to this pls dont roast me too hard
Oilers would much rather keep their top d prospect who they have developed over a couple years and who is poised to make the team. You can keep Bogosian
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 14 h 51
Sujet:
Oilers Lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BenjaminWalder</b></div><div>Nuge is fixed I dont like Archi I just put him there randomly Idk where u say ennis as 2C hes 4C</div></div>
Yea mistyped the 4C as 2C. Same question till stands. Ennis a good complimentary winger. Throwing him in as a center makes no sense at all. Especially since he had decent success as a middle 6 winger in his short period here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 13 h 10
Sujet:
Oilers Lines
Nah dude. Nuge is no playing 3rd line winger. Like that will never happen. He's more likely to take a 2C role and put 29 and 97 together.
Why is Ennis playing 2C? Why is Chaisson playing in a more offensive role than JP. That should be flipped.
Not playing Jones and Bear together.
Why is Archibald on the LTIR? Did I miss something? He's a huge part of the PK with Sheahan now gone.
This lineup is all over the place my dude
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 jan à 17 h 25
Sujet:
2023 Cup Champions
Would be pretty sweet if Caleb can get Seth to join the Oilers haha
Rakell is in line for one last big pay day. Probably gets more than that.
Pretty sweet looking lineup, but its pretty rare that a team would have nearly all of the players on their roster as being drafted by that team. Theres only like 4 starting players who aren't drafted by the Oilers. Good look at what the Oilers have coming up though
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 jan à 17 h 20
Sujet:
Would this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Oilers pass on that jets trade. Larsson is incredibly important for Edmonton also liane would just be causing a massive cap problem in the nearer future without solving anything. Oilers had the top two point leaders last year just added a bunch of quality help in secondary scoring putting the puck in the net is not a problem that needs to be addressed like this.</div></div>
Interesting perspective. While I agree Larsson is a great PK guy and a better teammate, what he brings can easily be replaced. Look at a player like Hamonic. Good stay at home vet and held out until getitng a late PTO (I know its likely he has a deal agreed upon already). And if anything, Hamonic has a little better puck moving ability. If you have the chance to make this trade, you take it and give Hamonic a guaranteed deal.
I get that the Oilers already have the top 2 point scorers in the league, but Laine is an incredible talent. You could argue that top 6 wingers is where the Oilers have the least depth/adequacy.
So I agree the Oilers have absolutey no reason to pursue a Laine trade, as they have other areas that need an upgrade, <strong>BUT</strong> if the proposal above is the case, you take it 100% of the time. The Oilers simply give up no valuable pieces. Theres practically no risk.
Not an important part, but an added bonus is the effect it could have on Puljujarvi.
Nuge-McD-Kass
Kahun-Drai-Yamo
Laine-Turris-JP
Chaisson-Haas-Archibald
Thats a pretty deep top 9. And don't even get me started on the powerplay.
Nuge-McD-Drai
Laine-Barrie
Anything short of 100% success rate would be a shock.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 jan à 17 h 13
Sujet:
Would this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Elite goal scorer? Goal scorer for sure, but when someone is 3rd in goals on just his own team each of the last two seasons... elite?</div></div>
I mean anyone can hand pick stats. You say he was 3rd on his team each of the last 2 seasons, I could say he's top 10 in the league in total goals since he entered the league. To be in that company in your first 4 years is pretty impressive. Guys been on pace for over 30 every season of his career.
Like I said, he's had inconsistent stretches, especially over the last two seasons, but there aren'y many players like him in the world. Any team in the league would be happy to have them.
You can't seriously say that the trade proposal is fair though. The only real value the Oilers give up is Larsson and the 1st. Larsson, as much as I like him, is very easily replaceable. Theres players like him every year that sign for cheap in free agency.( ie Hamonic) . And as I mentioned, the picks will be late in their rounds, give the Jets just a chance of landing an NHL player, let alone a player with the impact that Laine gives. On top of this, the Oilers get out of Neals contract.
Im an Oilers fan, I take this deal 11 times out of 10. Im just trying to be realistic
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 jan à 13 h 55
Sujet:
Would this work
Thats not even close in the WPG trade. Laine, despite some inconsistent stretches, is an elite goal scorer whos still very young. If he were ever traded, the Jets would need some young, team controlled, top 6 forwards top pairing dmen.
I love Larsson, but he's a bottom pairing PK guy.
Neal is fine, but slightly overpaid and realistically a 3rd/4th line guy at the tail end of his career.
Nygard really doesn't have any value. Has yet to prove he's an NHL regular.
Then two picks that are in likely to fall in the last 1/3 of their respective rounds. Those picks are no where near a sure thing. And likely not having an NHL impact for another 3-5 years IF they turn out.
When you lay it out like this, as early as 2 years, the Jets could have traded Laine and have nothing on their roster to show for it. Laine is way too good for that.
That doesn't even consider the fact that you are dumping tons of salary to the Jets too. This trade is a no brainer for the Oilers, zero risk and all the payoff. Thats why the Jets don't even remotely consider it
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 jan à 1 h 08
Sujet:
2021 2022 Wishful Thinking
If Yamamotos AAV hits $4, you gotta go with long term on that. I think a similar deal to Tuch is extremely fair for both sides.
Holloway is realistically 2-3 years away still. Lavoie more likely to make the team first.
I think Nuge might want to hit that $7M mark if he has another good season. I could see him anywhere from $6.5-$7.5M long term for him.
From what I heard, that Larssons deal is pretty fair. Theres no doubt Larsson hasn't done anything to warrant a pay raise. Good PK guy but literally zero offense. Great team guy though. I bet you could get him on a $2MAAV x 4 year deal. I'd like that a lot. I could see him being an effect 3rd pairing guy in 3 years or so.
Also, with the Katz being one of the owners who doesn't hold back on spending money, I would expect the Oilers to be players in free agency next year, for better of for worse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 jan à 17 h 03
Sujet:
Dubois
Dubois is very very good. Not giving up our top 2 d prospects, both of who are knocking at the door of making the team, for another center.
If the Oilers make a move for him, it would have to be centered around an extended Nuge. I love Nuge, but Dubois is without a doubt a player you move him for.
Having said that, I feel like CBJ would prefer a younger player under team control.
Laine for Dubois makes a lot of sense if both are unhappy with their situations
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 jan à 11 h 33
Sujet:
dougie
As already mentioned, thats a shocking low return for Nurse. Despite his flaws, he is the Oilers best dman this season with Klefbom out. Im not saying hes a number 1 dman, but he's worth a whole lot more than that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 jan à 0 h 51
Sujet:
RNH At 3c
Nuge had his best season when he split between 2C (When Drai and McDavid were together) and first line wing. Playing him at 3C makes ZERO sense. His minutes would be limited and you would just further dilute the wingers. Realistically speaking, Yamamoto and Nuge are the only legit top 6 wingers. Kassian is a complimentary 3rd line guy and Kahun and JP are unproven at this time. We barely have wingers playing in their right spot as if, if you move nuge down, you need to give him players to help out offensively, not a lots of talent to pick from.
Also this is just ignoring the fact that we got Turris. He's a perfect 3C for us.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 jan à 0 h 46
Sujet:
champs
Given that Klefbom is out, I would prefer not to trade a best dman for a middle 6 winger. I'm not crazy about Nurse and would move him in the right deal. I believe you criminally undervalued him in this proposal though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 jan à 0 h 43
Sujet:
Oil get PLD
Not gonna lie, as an Oiler fan I was pretty happy with the value for PLD, and then I realized you also added Jones haha. Arguably a top 5 dman in the league, thats where you kind of lost it.
I'd be happy with Nuge, Lagesson, Larsson and a 1st. Probably not what CBJ is looking for
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