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Date de création initiale: 13 oct. 2021
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 0
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laf to habs
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 0
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Assuming you're talking about development of prospects in the last 5 years (since the Rangers rebuild began) - Mikheyev, Liljegren, Bracco, Johnsson, Kapanen, and Gauthier would all like to have a word with you.
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 1
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 3
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Does toronto?
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 4
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No thanks from the Leafs. Besides what will LAF cost in his RFA.
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 4
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Assuming you're talking about development of prospects in the last 5 years (since the Rangers rebuild began) - Mikheyev, Liljegren, Bracco, Johnsson, Kapanen, and Gauthier would all like to have a word with you.


Which one of those was a top 10 pick?
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 14
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Yes
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 20
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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028
Assuming you're talking about development of prospects in the last 5 years (since the Rangers rebuild began) - Mikheyev, Liljegren, Bracco, Johnsson, Kapanen, and Gauthier would all like to have a word with you.


Mikheyev was never gonna be a star, Liljegren is getting minutes this year, Bracco you can make a case for, Johnsson excelled in Toronto but had to be traded bc of his contract, Kappy is one of the best players on the Pens. Only 2 of these guys are first round picks. NYR had/currently has Laf, Kakko, Andersson, Kravtsov, etc who were all high picks and hasn't lived up to their potential
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 23
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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028
Assuming you're talking about development of prospects in the last 5 years (since the Rangers rebuild began) - Mikheyev, Liljegren, Bracco, Johnsson, Kapanen, and Gauthier would all like to have a word with you.


Mikheyev was a signed at age 24 and immediately made the NHL roster. Not sure what that has to do with prospect development
Johnsson going from a 7th rounder to a half a point per game NHLer with the leafs is not a sign of bad prospect development lol
Kapanen was a success for TOR - they got him after his D+1 year and turned him into a useful NHLer
Liljegren, Gauthier, and Bracco are the only ones where the Leafs can really be blamed for poor development (and Liljegren still has time to become a useful NHLer)
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 27
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So guys drafted in the top ten and who else?
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 31
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Assuming you're talking about development of prospects in the last 5 years (since the Rangers rebuild began) - Mikheyev, Liljegren, Bracco, Johnsson, Kapanen, and Gauthier would all like to have a word with you.


You can add Dermott, Sandin, Robertson to that list as well. Pretty sure Fox, Miller, Chytil, kreider, shesty, Buch have been developed in an excellent way. Laf and Kakko played minimal minutes on a 3rd line up until now and shortened seasons so your jumping the gun since they actually play well but haven’t been getting the 1PP time for scoring. You can also add strome, Zibby and bread to that list since they all have hit new heights since coming to NYR.. Lias who throws away silver medals couldn’t be developed, Kravs is heading in the wrong direction as well but has the potential. Nils is coming along just fine.
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13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 41
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Toronto doesn't know how to win Playoff series.
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 42
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Rangers don't know how to develop young prospects.
....so lets give them two more 1sts to break
13 oct. 2021 à 21 h 53
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Rangers don't know how to develop young prospects.
....so lets give them two more 1sts to break


hey, they probably think they know how to lmao
13 oct. 2021 à 23 h 21
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You can add Dermott, Sandin, Robertson to that list as well. Pretty sure Fox, Miller, Chytil, kreider, shesty, Buch have been developed in an excellent way. Laf and Kakko played minimal minutes on a 3rd line up until now and shortened seasons so your jumping the gun since they actually play well but haven’t been getting the 1PP time for scoring. You can also add strome, Zibby and bread to that list since they all have hit new heights since coming to NYR.. Lias who throws away silver medals couldn’t be developed, Kravs is heading in the wrong direction as well but has the potential. Nils is coming along just fine.


Putting panarin and strome in a discussion about rangers prospect development is criminal.
14 oct. 2021 à 5 h 23
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Putting panarin and strome in a discussion about rangers prospect development is criminal.


Panarin yes… Strome not so much, even the last 3 seasons he’s been called a nobody by everyone and yet he still produces at the same level without bread there
14 oct. 2021 à 22 h 8
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Panarin yes… Strome not so much, even the last 3 seasons he’s been called a nobody by everyone and yet he still produces at the same level without bread there


That doesnt make him anything close to a prospect!
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That doesnt make him anything close to a prospect!


Key word was developing. Never said we drafted him or brought him up through the minors. Anyways, I listed half a roster and you want to get your panties knotted over one name, my point has clearly been made by a long shot. Our developing is good and some players can’t be developed unfortunately. That’s why the draft is often a crap shoot.
14 oct. 2021 à 23 h 23
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Key word was developing. Never said we drafted him or brought him up through the minors. Anyways, I listed half a roster and you want to get your panties knotted over one name, my point has clearly been made by a long shot. Our developing is good and some players can’t be developed unfortunately. That’s why the draft is often a crap shoot.


Wasnt attacking you or anything, just pointing out that you added a few names that shouldnt have been in there. No need to get your panties knotted over a discussion on CF.
15 oct. 2021 à 9 h 41
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You can add Dermott, Sandin, Robertson to that list as well. Pretty sure Fox, Miller, Chytil, kreider, shesty, Buch have been developed in an excellent way. Laf and Kakko played minimal minutes on a 3rd line up until now and shortened seasons so your jumping the gun since they actually play well but haven’t been getting the 1PP time for scoring. You can also add strome, Zibby and bread to that list since they all have hit new heights since coming to NYR.. Lias who throws away silver medals couldn’t be developed, Kravs is heading in the wrong direction as well but has the potential. Nils is coming along just fine.


Are you out of your mind? Panarin was like 28 before he played a game for the rangers
15 oct. 2021 à 9 h 50
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Are you out of your mind? Panarin was like 28 before he played a game for the rangers


Well we all know this, I’m clearly pointing out the obvious that we aren’t the issue when it comes to the 2 prospects that haven’t worked out. I love how people want to attack you for an exaggeration 😂. So if you want to say we didn’t draft him then ding ding you’re right! Simply stating that multiple guys hit new ceilings when they arrived, while the 1/2 a roster of guys we drafted have turned out great.
15 oct. 2021 à 9 h 51
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Well we all know this, I’m clearly pointing out the obvious that we aren’t the issue when it comes to the 2 prospects that haven’t worked out. I love how people want to attack you for an exaggeration 😂. So if you want to say we didn’t draft him then ding ding you’re right! Simply stating that multiple guys hit new ceilings when they arrived, while the 1/2 a roster of guys we drafted have turned out great.

Drafting, developing, and signing fully developed players in their prime are three different things. The rangers sort of suck at all three.
15 oct. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Drafting, developing, and signing fully developed players in their prime are three different things. The rangers sort of suck at all three.


😂😂😂 sure bud. 1/2 our roster was drafted by us smh.
15 oct. 2021 à 10 h 1
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😂😂😂 sure bud. 1/2 our roster was drafted by us smh.


Just not the good ones
15 oct. 2021 à 10 h 25
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Just not the good ones


Like the time you guys drafted 3 duds at 14/15/16 and the 3 guys after were absolute superstars? Ya, draft is a crap shoot and everyone had Kakko and Laf were they were. Miller, Schneider were great depth picks, nils might be also. Lias and Kravs have failed based on personal issues. Kravs has the skill and needs the chance to be top 6. We failed there but demanding trades with no NHL games under your belt is a solid move right?! Draft is an absolute crap shoot, how does 24 teams pass on Pasta 🤷🏻‍♂️…crap shoot..
 
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