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Sharks listening on Labanc

Créé par: papishark
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2021
Publié: 8 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Sharks would listen but would require an over payment. Leafs want a young top six player with term. Could be a fit. (Yes I know leafs fans will tear into me, but they have said they would trade top prospects and the first will be very late).
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  1. Amirov, Rodion [Liste de réserve]
  2. Andersen, Frederik
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
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Anderson is a cap move and wouldnt be playing this year
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  1. Dubnyk, Devan (100 000 $ retained)
  2. Labanc, Kevin
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 8
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leafs def pass on that one
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 8
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Quoting: Vermathex
leafs def pass on that one


Fair, its a tough price. Kind of just what I think it would take the sharks to move him. Kapanen style deal
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 9
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Fair, its a tough price. Kind of just what I think it would take the sharks to move him. Kapanen style deal


yea put everyone agrees that was a dumb overpayment. Also pitts prospect wasn't anywhere near amirov's skill level and potential
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 10
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Dubas says repeatedly they want to get a rental.

This is the response from other fans.

None of the assets here are worth a 1st let alone a 1st and a guy picked 15th overall last year.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 10
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Leblanc might be worth his 4.75m contract, but it's a contract Leafs can't afford next year without moving a big contract out.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 13
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Dubas says repeatedly they want to get a rental.

This is the response from other fans.

None of the assets here are worth a 1st let alone a 1st and a guy picked 15th overall last year.


Your name is fitting as always
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 14
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That's about twice of what Labanc is worth I would think. Remove Amirov from this trade (Toronto could then throw in a lesser prospect) and it is fair. You used the Kapanen deal as an example, but that was a first (Amirov) plus Hallender (Hallender is not worth anywhere close to a first), and Kapanen is probably slightly better.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 15
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Dubas says repeatedly they want to get a rental.

This is the response from other fans.

None of the assets here are worth a 1st let alone a 1st and a guy picked 15th overall last year.


Lebanc is worth a mid 1st easily. Young and on a solid deal (even though leafs probably still can’t afford that deal) and he has proven he can be a 50 pt guy before. On the leafs lebanc probably scores 20 goals and has 55 pts throughout his whole deal. But I do agree he’s not worth the 1st and Amirov.

Also just makes more sense for the leafs to get a rental. I actually think there’s a chance they trade for hall.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 15
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That's about twice of what Labanc is worth I would think. Remove Amirov from this trade (Toronto could then throw in a lesser prospect) and it is fair. You used the Kapanen deal as an example, but that was a first (Amirov) plus Hallender (Hallender is not worth anywhere close to a first), and Kapanen is probably slightly better.


I agree that this is more than that, but Labanc is clearly better and has a longer contract (although more expensive). Was Hallender not one of the best Pens prospects? Also the pens pick is likely 10 picks earlier than the Leafs
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 16
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That's about twice of what Labanc is worth I would think. Remove Amirov from this trade (Toronto could then throw in a lesser prospect) and it is fair. You used the Kapanen deal as an example, but that was a first (Amirov) plus Hallender (Hallender is not worth anywhere close to a first), and Kapanen is probably slightly better.


Lebanc is easily better than kapanen. But he’s not worth amirov and a 1st.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 16
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Your name is fitting as always


Doesn't make me wrong. An older declining goalie and a bottom 6er doesn't get you 1 st
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 17
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'Leafs want a young top six player with term.'

Dubas has actually said the opposite, that a rental makes more sense this season.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 18
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I agree that this is more than that, but Labanc is clearly better and has a longer contract (although more expensive). Was Hallender not one of the best Pens prospects? Also the pens pick is likely 10 picks earlier than the Leafs


Yes, but the Pens prospect pool was questionable to say the least. He's probably in the 7-10 range for the Leafs.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 20
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Doesn't make me wrong. An older declining goalie and a bottom 6er doesn't get you 1 st


Labanc would be the 4th best forward on the leafs by WAR and Spezza is one of the ones above him.
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 27
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Labanc would be the 4th best forward on the leafs by WAR and Spezza is one of the ones above him.


Which tells you how legitimate WAR is. Good players get sewered by WAR and average players look like kings. LaBlanc is fine but he's not the 4th best forward in TO. No one on the planet thinks he's better than Matthews, Marner, JT, Nylander or Hyman. Out of lunch.
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 28
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Doesn't make me wrong. An older declining goalie and a bottom 6er doesn't get you 1 st


Bottom 6???
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 32
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Yeah Sharks will only wanna deal him at a Kapanen-type price, and no one wants that most likely. Stalemate
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 34
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I agree that this is more than that, but Labanc is clearly better and has a longer contract (although more expensive). Was Hallender not one of the best Pens prospects? Also the pens pick is likely 10 picks earlier than the Leafs


You know what, I actually didn't realize just how good Labanc is, he's better than Kapanen.
Nonetheless, it's still an overpayment because a first>>Hallender, and although getting a better player would cost more, I don't think it's good for the leafs because it means they loose Holl at the expansion draft(not to mention Andersen in this trade, Andersen>Dubnuk even when accounting cap hits). Also the higher cost might mean they can't get a good 3c (as Kerfoot is almost certain going to be gone before next offseason).
Also, Dubas was pretty specific that he wants a rental (due to flat cap, expansion draft, etc).
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8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 35
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Lebanc is easily better than kapanen. But he’s not worth amirov and a 1st.


Ya, my bad, I didn't realize he scored over 50 points before for some reason.
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 37
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Labanc would be the 4th best forward on the leafs by WAR and Spezza is one of the ones above him.


He'd still be the leafs 6th best forward, and you really can't argue against that. But none the less,

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Doesn't make me wrong. An older declining goalie and a bottom 6er doesn't get you 1 st


He's easily be a top 6 winger for them.
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 43
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Bottom 6???


That's what he is on a good team
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 44
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He'd still be the leafs 6th best forward, and you really can't argue against that. But none the less,



He's easily be a top 6 winger for them.


Yeah and Spezza could be a top line forward in Detroit. Being the best on a terrible team doesn't mean you are also a top 6 on a much better team.
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 45
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Yeah and Spezza could be a top line forward in Detroit. Being the best on a terrible team doesn't mean you are also a top 6 on a much better team.


No I meant top 6 for the leafs.
8 avr. 2021 à 16 h 50
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No I meant top 6 for the leafs.


Over who? Gally has been great with Nylander and JT and Hyman is with the top line.
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Over who? Gally has been great with Nylander and JT and Hyman is with the top line.


This is why leafs fans have such a bad reputation.

I don't care how well Gally has been with JT and Willy, no one on planet earth thinks he's better than Labanc.
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