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Whats the price for Miles Wood

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Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 22 mars 2021
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    Big, fast, solid two-way game, and signed for 2 playoff runs at a reasonable caphit. What would be the price to acquire him?
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 35
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    With the “Coleman” Price Being thrown Around what prospects would you give up?

    Reminder this is my opinion

    It’s either a
    2nd B+ prospect
    3rd A- prospect
    A+ prospect
    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 35
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    A 2nd and a good young asset. Like not a top prospect but a good one. Still he's good but nothing crazy out there too. The guy is on the 4th at NJ...
    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 38
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    Similar to the Coleman trade. Coleman was better defensively but Wood is better offensively and younger.
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 43
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Similar to the Coleman trade. Coleman was better defensively but Wood is better offensively and younger.


    Is Wood really better than Coleman offensively?
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    Quoting: Robo
    With the “Coleman” Price Being thrown Around what prospects would you give up?

    Reminder this is my opinion

    It’s either a
    2nd B+ prospect
    3rd A- prospect
    A+ prospect


    A big factor in the Coleman pricetag was his caphit, which was $1m lower than Miles Wood.

    Wood is also currently playing on NJ's 4th line, so it seems a bit unreasonable to ask for an A prospect.

    NJ have no reason to trade him though so I suppose a slight overpayment would be warranted.

    Would you accept 3rd + Bowers? Alternatively Kaut/Timmins?
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    A 2nd and a good young asset. Like not a top prospect but a good one. Still he's good but nothing crazy out there too. The guy is on the 4th at NJ...


    Something around Bowers?
    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 47
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    a first for a team like Colorado, like the Tampa Bay trades
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 47
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    Would you do Kaut and your 1st this year? Wood brings a lot to the table, scoring a lot of goals this year, and signed at a cheap deal for 2 years like you said. Considering the Avs pick will be in the 20's I think that's what I'd be looking for. Maybe Kaut + a 2nd and a 3rd at the least
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 48
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    Quoting: Robo
    With the “Coleman” Price Being thrown Around what prospects would you give up?

    Reminder this is my opinion

    It’s either a
    2nd B+ prospect
    3rd A- prospect
    A+ prospect


    Great assessment, I think Wood has more value than Barclay Goodrow but less then Blake Coleman. I would imagine NJ is more interested in prospects as suppose to draft picks where this years draft is a little strange with many of the draft eligible players playing very few games, if any.
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Is Wood really better than Coleman offensively?


    No. He's not better than Coleman in any facet of the game tbh. Would be thrilled keeping him, but if he were to be traded, I'm thinking a 2nd and a B-ish prospect would be the price.
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Is Wood really better than Coleman offensively?


    I think so. Not by much though. Wood is underrated defensively too but Coleman is better
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Something around Bowers?


    Bowers and a 2nd would do it I think. Could also fetch a guy like Timmins and a mid tier pick (I know he's good but you have to give to receive). Depends on the needs of NJ
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    Quoting: Book_Hockey
    No. He's not better than Coleman in any facet of the game tbh. Would be thrilled keeping him, but if he were to be traded, I'm thinking a 2nd and a B-ish prospect would be the price.


    I think Wood is better offensively, not in previous years but this year Wood is much better offensively
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    Quoting: Richard88
    A big factor in the Coleman pricetag was his caphit, which was $1m lower than Miles Wood.

    Wood is also currently playing on NJ's 4th line, so it seems a bit unreasonable to ask for an A prospect.

    NJ have no reason to trade him though so I suppose a slight overpayment would be warranted.

    Would you accept 3rd + Bowers? Alternatively Kaut/Timmins?


    I don’t know a lot about your prospects but who’s your best ones Besides the obvious Untouchables like Newhook and Byram
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 53
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    Quoting: zyyyp
    Would you do Kaut and your 1st this year? Wood brings a lot to the table, scoring a lot of goals this year, and signed at a cheap deal for 2 years like you said. Considering the Avs pick will be in the 20's I think that's what I'd be looking for. Maybe Kaut + a 2nd and a 3rd at the least

    No wouldn’t move kaut for him bc kaut on his elc has the ability to give you what wood brings but on an elc
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    22 mars 2021 à 13 h 55
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    Quoting: Robo
    I don’t know a lot about your prospects but who’s your best ones Besides the obvious Untouchables like Newhook and Byram


    Ranta helleson and Barron probably, they don’t move them unless it’s a blockbuster

    Kaut Bowers next but they avoid moving them bc they beef their elcs on the roster next season, but not untouchable but they make more work for themselves next season if they trade them
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Is Wood really better than Coleman offensively?


    I don't think so at all, Coleman has produced offensively at a higher rate then Wood. Like you said Colemans contract is also better. Coleman has more value then Wood, I think Woods value is a little more comparable to Barclay Goodrow. Completely agree tho an overpayment will be required.
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    Quoting: coga16
    Ranta helleson and Barron probably, they don’t move them unless it’s a blockbuster

    Kaut Bowers next but they avoid moving them bc they beef their elcs on the roster next season, but not untouchable but they make more work for themselves next season if they trade them


    Wow I almost Completely forgot about Barron
    22 mars 2021 à 14 h 0
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    Wow I almost Completely forgot about Barron


    Avs have the assets to do something and I think Timmins might be a guy they move since helleson is looking solid, his offensive game went to a net level and probably gets his elc after this season

    Barron will probably chill in the q for another season
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    Quoting: zyyyp
    Would you do Kaut and your 1st this year? Wood brings a lot to the table, scoring a lot of goals this year, and signed at a cheap deal for 2 years like you said. Considering the Avs pick will be in the 20's I think that's what I'd be looking for. Maybe Kaut + a 2nd and a 3rd at the least


    I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to moving Kaut or the 1st, but with a package like that I think we'd be aiming higher than Wood. For example, Anaheim fans have long agreed that 1st + Timmins/Kaut would be fair for Rakell.

    I probably wouldn't even move Kaut for Wood, period. Kaut plays a rugged game with some finish so he could bring a lot of what Wood does, albeit on an ELC which is very valuable.

    Bowers hasn't really developed as a C and looks more like a winger which makes him less valuable to Colorado, but a team like NJ with numerous C's already might value him more as a winger. So he's the natural guy to include I think.
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    Quoting: Book_Hockey
    No. He's not better than Coleman in any facet of the game tbh. Would be thrilled keeping him, but if he were to be traded, I'm thinking a 2nd and a B-ish prospect would be the price.


    Avs don't have a 2nd in the next two drafts, so it would have to be a 3rd + prospect sort of deal, or alternatively a Goodrow style 1st for 3rd + Wood, or thereabouts.
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    I think Wood is better offensively, not in previous years but this year Wood is much better offensively


    What's the reason for Wood's increased offensive production this year? Better linemates?
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    Quoting: Robo
    I don’t know a lot about your prospects but who’s your best ones Besides the obvious Untouchables like Newhook and Byram


    Untouchable: Newhook (and Byram but I don't consider him a prospect anymore as he's already on the NHL roster permanently)

    Most likely off-limits: Barron, Helleson, Foudy, Annunen (just because he's our only half-decent goalie prospect, though his stock has fallen recently)

    Would prefer to keep but could be included in the right deal: Bowers, Timmins, Kaut, Ranta, Kovalenko, Ambrosio, Zhuravlyov

    Trade bait: Beaucage, Kamenev, Stienburg, Weiss, Rolston, Mutala, Leivermann

    The 3rd tier above is probably where you'd be picking from if you want a solid B+ to B- prospect. Whether or not any of those players are moved would depend on who we're acquiring though.
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    Quoting: coga16
    Avs have the assets to do something and I think Timmins might be a guy they move since helleson is looking solid, his offensive game went to a net level and probably gets his elc after this season

    Barron will probably chill in the q for another season


    Yeah I think there's a high chance that Timmins gets dealt this deadline, or at least that his name is out there in discussions with scouts/GM's.

    His most useful time period for the Avs would be this year and next due to low caphits, but he's been passed by MacDonald now so Timmins is 7th D right now and therefore somewhat expendable if it can get us a good forward or 3C. Beyond next season there's Barron and Helleson on ELC's which makes Timmins redundant long-term.
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    I'll be honest. I am rooting against a Wood trade unless it's a steal. Nothing against him, but considering he would presumably displace someone else I don't see it being worth the cost.

    If Compher is going the other way then maybe I'm open. I don't think that's the case though, consisting NJ was scouting the Avs when he was out.
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