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Trying to Save a Franchise

Créé par: MitchMarner_16
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 11 mars 2021
Publié: 11 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Eichel most likely won't be traded unfortunately, at least that's my opinion.

GMs are not likely to trade Eichel's caliber very often and at his age because you never know how long you will have to wait to get another player like him.

That said, as we've seen this season has been a massive dumpster fire for this franchise. Good luck trying to get any other UFA big names to sign here, since singing here and not playing well have tanked Taylor Hall's value. I just don't see players wanting to sign here long term until the team is better. Disappointing IMO. Worst part, is they're handcuffed by terrible contracts like Okposo and Skinner for the next 3 years and 7 years.

Right now, i think this team really needs to strip it down to the studs. Again. I know.

Keep your core of guys you want to build around, and try desperately to get young talent and position yourself for the future.

Anyway, If I'm Kevyn Adams, this is my approach to the TDL.

Man, I feel for this franchise as a leaf fan. I went thru this and its tough when you have no hope. Hang in there.
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BUF
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Let me know if this is unfair, or if i must add more to either side.
COL
  1. Hall, Taylor (4 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Hall's been unimpressive this year, but could be useful to colorado to strengthen their top 6.
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BUF
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
  2. Stastny, Paul
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Again, let me know if I need to adjust value here.

Stastny = Reinhart, Mittelstadt, 4th
Perreault, 2nd = Risto, Retention
WPG
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Reinhart, Sam (2 600 000 $ retained)
  3. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Giving the Jets some defensive help and reinhart, to help their top six out a bit.
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11 mars 2021 à 12 h 56
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Stastny would have to sign a team friendly extension and that wouldnt even be in the ballpark. Risto is not a problem in Buffalo, Reinhart and Risto are 2 big pieces
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Winnipeg trad did very bad for Buffalo, if Reinhart is traded he’ll get a solid haul
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11 mars 2021 à 12 h 57
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The colorado trade is fine, i dont think we would get back more than a late first and maybe a very minor add. The winnipeg trade is just about the worst valuation ive seen.
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11 mars 2021 à 12 h 58
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avs top 6 is already deep, Hall isnt taking anyone spot on the top line and hes not taking Saad or Bura out of the top 6.
Avs need a 3C more than a 1 dimensional winger
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11 mars 2021 à 12 h 59
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Thats a ridiculously low return for Reinhart alone
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Stastny would have to sign a team friendly extension and that wouldnt even be in the ballpark. Risto is not a problem in Buffalo, Reinhart and Risto are 2 big pieces


Quoting: AndrewLadd
Winnipeg trad did very bad for Buffalo, if Reinhart is traded he’ll get a solid haul


Gotcha. Didn’t know how to value Risto or Rienhart. I feel like both need a change of scenery...
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why are we trading a very good player in Reinhart for a 36 year old center who is a pending UFA?

how does that save us?

that is ignoring everything else we are trading. maybe the worst trade on here i have ever seen that isnt a troll post
11 mars 2021 à 13 h 3
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Gotcha. Didn’t know how to value Risto or Rienhart. I feel like both need a change of scenery...


value reinhart as nylander. same age, same draft, very similar career stats.
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Gotcha. Didn’t know how to value Risto or Rienhart. I feel like both need a change of scenery...


I’m pretty sure risto has been good this season pre getting COVID and Reinhart has been the Sabres most consistent forward
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11 mars 2021 à 13 h 5
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Why would Buffalo move those guys to Winnipeg for two rentals? Also, it would be highly doubtful Winnipeg kills their center depth after trying for years to get some and moves two guys that are playing well in the middle of a playoff push. It doesn't work for either team.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
value reinhart as nylander. same age, same draft, very similar career stats.


Thx for the feedback. I don’t follow the sabres really at all, so this was a huge shot in the dark.
11 mars 2021 à 13 h 13
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Why would Buffalo move those guys to Winnipeg for two rentals? Also, it would be highly doubtful Winnipeg kills their center depth after trying for years to get some and moves two guys that are playing well in the middle of a playoff push. It doesn't work for either team.


Quoting: Windjammer
Why would Buffalo move those guys to Winnipeg for two rentals? Also, it would be highly doubtful Winnipeg kills their center depth after trying for years to get some and moves two guys that are playing well in the middle of a playoff push. It doesn't work for either team.


Yeah probably not the best idea in hindsight. This was a huge shot in the dark because I don’t really follow the sabres.

Made this ACGM to step out of my comfort zone and learn about other franchises.
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11 mars 2021 à 13 h 16
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COL doesn’t want Hall but could definitely offer a better package for Reinhart.
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11 mars 2021 à 13 h 23
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This is terrible deal for Sabres with WPG.
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11 mars 2021 à 14 h 8
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IMO, the one thing that will save the Buffalo Sabres is for new ownership to take charge.

Once the Sabres miss the playoffs this year, they will be tied for first for having the longest playoff drought in league history, along with the Edmonton Oilers from 2006-2017.

The entire tenure of Terry Pegula and his wife, Kim, as joint owners of the Buffalo Sabres has very closely coincided with this playoff drought.

Since Pegulas bought the Sabres in 2010, they have had:

Complete turnover of their roster

Complete turnover of their coaching staff.

Complete turnover of their management team/front office

Complete turnover of their scouting staff

Complete turnover of hockey operations/team executives aside from the Pegulas themselves.

The only thing that hasn't changed since 2010 is the two people at the very top wink

However, to get a new owner, you'll need a billionaire, a businessman/woman who likes hockey and someone with some sort of connection or interest/stake in the community.

And you also need the Pegulas to sell the Sabres and give up a piece of their monopoly over all the major/local sports teams in the Western part of New York State.

That's a tall order :/

Successful teams are built starting from the top, not from the bottom smile
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11 mars 2021 à 14 h 19
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IMO, the one thing that will save the Buffalo Sabres is for new ownership to take charge.

Once the Sabres miss the playoffs this year, they will be tied for first for having the longest playoff drought in league history, along with the Edmonton Oilers from 2006-2017.

The entire tenure of Terry Pegula and his wife, Kim, as joint owners of the Buffalo Sabres has very closely coincided with this playoff drought.

Since Pegulas bought the Sabres in 2010, they have had:

Complete turnover of their roster

Complete turnover of their coaching staff.

Complete turnover of their management team/front office

Complete turnover of their scouting staff

Complete turnover of hockey operations/team executives aside from the Pegulas themselves.

The only thing that hasn't changed since 2010 is the two people at the very top wink

However, to get a new owner, you'll need a billionaire, a businessman/woman who likes hockey and someone with some sort of connection or interest/stake in the community.

And you also need the Pegulas to sell the Sabres and give up a piece of their monopoly over all the major/local sports teams in the Western part of New York State.

That's a tall order :/

Successful teams are built starting from the top, not from the bottom smile


The irony of this post coming from a sens fan, you know this applies to the sens too right? No one is going to take them serious until they get a new owner. They can enjoy all the rebuilding young stars but until it’s time to pay them and spend to the cap, Eugene woll trade someone before paying them
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11 mars 2021 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: coga16
The irony of this post coming from a sens fan, you know this applies to the sens too right? No one is going to take them serious until they get a new owner. They can enjoy all the rebuilding young stars but until it’s time to pay them and spend to the cap, Eugene woll trade someone before paying them


He's not wrong though.
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11 mars 2021 à 14 h 22
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He's not wrong though.


He’s not wrong, but just it’s amusing based on his tone with those last comments

Sens fans looking down on another teams owners when they have arguably the worst owner in the league
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11 mars 2021 à 14 h 48
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Quoting: coga16
The irony of this post coming from a sens fan, you know this applies to the sens too right? No one is going to take them serious until they get a new owner. They can enjoy all the rebuilding young stars but until it’s time to pay them and spend to the cap, Eugene woll trade someone before paying them


I do know this applies to the Ottawa Senators and I'm flattered by the irony of this post smile

I do know that most hockey fans won't take our team seriously until we get a better owner or make the playoffs once again.

I do know that out of all the owners/ownership groups in the NHL, Eugene Melnyk is currently at the very least in the top 5 for being the worst.

At the same time, Melnyk did rescue the Senators from bankruptcy in 2003 and presided over a Stanley cup final in 2007 among other noteworthy events during his tenure.

The last time Ottawa made the playoffs with Uncle Euge as owner was in 2017 when we came within one goal of another Stanley cup final.

So, assuming Ottawa continues to miss the playoffs every year, they will match the longest playoff drought in league history by the year 2027.

So, make sure to get back to me then :P
11 mars 2021 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: coga16
He’s not wrong, but just it’s amusing based on his tone with those last comments

Sens fans looking down on another teams owners when they have arguably the worst owner in the league


You can make the case that Melnyk is worse than the other 30 owners/ownership groups in the NHL.

Certainly.

However, as long as the Ottawa Senators are making the playoffs and competing for a Stanley cup while delivering profit to its shareholders, pretty much nothing else should matter about Uncle Euge.

So, we'll see what happens by 2027 wink
11 mars 2021 à 15 h 0
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I do know this applies to the Ottawa Senators and I'm flattered by the irony of this post smile

I do know that most hockey fans won't take our team seriously until we get a better owner or make the playoffs once again.

I do know that out of all the owners/ownership groups in the NHL, Eugene Melnyk is currently at the very least in the top 5 for being the worst.

At the same time, Melnyk did rescue the Senators from bankruptcy in 2003 and presided over a Stanley cup final in 2007 among other noteworthy events during his tenure.

The last time Ottawa made the playoffs with Uncle Euge as owner was in 2017 when we came within one goal of another Stanley cup final.

So, assuming Ottawa continues to miss the playoffs every year, they will match the longest playoff drought in league history by the year 2027.

So, make sure to get back to me then :P


Sens gong a deep playoff run had nothing to do with ownership, if it wasn’t for Hammond that team doesn’t make the playoffs so don’t act high and mighty with your passive aggressive remarks.
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11 mars 2021 à 15 h 27
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Avs decline, they should have no interest in Hall.
11 mars 2021 à 16 h 58
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Avs decline, they should have no interest in Hall.


Just curious, why do you think this? It would make them really lethal upfront. I think besides yesterday, they (Avs) have been looking less dangerous than usual, even if you account for the Covid exposure pause and injury. If you could run someone with the speed and playmaking like Hall next to a shooter like Kadri and Burakovsky, while moving Sadd down to play with Nichushkin- that would be a killer top9. Healthy that's the best team on paper in the league. Leaves maybe the net as the only weak part.
11 mars 2021 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Just curious, why do you think this? It would make them really lethal upfront. I think besides yesterday, they (Avs) have been looking less dangerous than usual, even if you account for the Covid exposure pause and injury. If you could run someone with the speed and playmaking like Hall next to a shooter like Kadri and Burakovsky, while moving Sadd down to play with Nichushkin- that would be a killer top9. Healthy that's the best team on paper in the league. Leaves maybe the net as the only weak part.


Cap, management of assets, and Hall's 'desire to win'......or not as he preferred to take the money and play for Buffalo.
11 mars 2021 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: coga16
Sens gong a deep playoff run had nothing to do with ownership, if it wasn’t for Hammond that team doesn’t make the playoffs so don’t act high and mighty with your passive aggressive remarks.


The creator of this ACGM post, MitchMarner_16, actually liked my original post in the comment thread about Buffalo's ownership.

And how nice is it to come home after a long day and get accused of being passive-aggressive for no reason whatsoever?

If anything, you're the one that's being passive-aggressive.

If whatever I said about Melnyk or the Pegulas triggered you, then I can't even imagine what else would trigger you on this site.

I really recommend you read my last ACGM post that's titled "5 things I notice after making an ACGM post" and to read the comment thread.

You'll be glad you did smile

I thought about acting upon what you said but I'm leaning against it because I think you're a super nice guy deep down inside.

So, how about this?

Why don't we say goodbye to each other and move on to happier things going on in our day right now? wink

Good day to you, sir.

And give my love to whatever that cute furry little animal is in your profile pic.

I just hope you don't get eaten by it frown
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