is this a fair trade

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Créé par: acj

Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 1 sept. 2020

Publié: 1 sept. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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tell me what you think in the comments

2 hours ago the wild nd pens said they were looking for a trade and that the wild are looking for a center. The Minnesota Wild have been unofficially tied to the Pittsburgh Penguins trade saga of goalie Matt Murray

https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/dans-daily-minnesota-wild-jonas-brodin-pittsburgh-penguins-trade-goodbye-chara/

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Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan		5	3 350 000 $
Åberg, Pontus		3	850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Vatanen, Sami		3	3 500 000 $
Namestnikov, Vladislav		3	2 750 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Brodin, Jonas
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (MIN)

MIN

Johnson, Jack
McCann, Jared [Droits de RFA]
Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]

PIT

Pesce, Brett

CAR

Aston-Reese, Zach
Lafferty, Sam [Droits de RFA]
Légaré, Nathan
Simon, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (NYR)

NYR

Dumoulin, Brian

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (LAK)

LAK

Bjugstad, Nick
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	77 436 009 $	0 $	850 000 $	4 063 991 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 5	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Poulin, Samuel 894 167 $894 167 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Namestnikov, Vladislav 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2	Hörnqvist, Patric 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 3
Åberg, Pontus 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, AG UFA	Blueger, Teddy 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Marino, John 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 1	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan 3 350 000 $3 350 000 $ G UFA - 3
Brodin, Jonas 4 166 667 $4 166 667 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 4	DeSmith, Casey 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 5	Vatanen, Sami 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 24

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Dumoulin's that bad? I feel like we definitely do that

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 25

ClockReads2113

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First two? Not even close to fair to the other teams.

Why in the heck would you trade Dumo? Let alone for a 5th?! You could probably get a 1st for him or a very good prospects.

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 26

acj

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Banni

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

Dumoulin's that bad? I feel like we definitely do that

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 26

justaBoss

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My opinion regarding that MIN trade is that it's a complete failure and Guerin should be sent to the moon with a rocket if he ever goes through with something even closely resembling that.

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 27

acj

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

First two? Not even close to fair to the other teams.

Why in the heck would you trade Dumo? Let alone for a 5th?! You could probably get a 1st for him or a very good prospects.

did you see the link? you should try reading it

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 27

acj

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Banni

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Quoting: justaBoss

My opinion regarding that MIN trade is that it's a complete failure and Guerin should be sent to the moon with a rocket if he ever goes through with something even closely resembling that.

copy and paste the link on google

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 29

CanesTings

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Carolina gets a bunch of spare parts to help a direct competitor in the metro get better lol

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 29

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Quoting: acj

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

didn't he used to be a shut down dman? he's just had injuries?

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 30

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Quoting: acj

copy and paste the link on google

I did.

Seems like complete garbage to me, but what do I know...

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 35

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csick

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Quoting: acj

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

hes playing on the top pair. If he has positive value, hes definitely worth a lot more

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 41

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Does dog poop smell like apple pie???

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 45

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Quoting: csick

hes playing on the top pair. If he has positive value, hes definitely worth a lot more

should i edit it?
and if so what should we get back

1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 46

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Dan10900

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

didn't he used to be a shut down dman? he's just had injuries?

Yes, he still is, solid top pair shut down LD, would be a great partner for ADA or Trouba

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1 sept. 2020 à 10 h 54

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The Minnesota trade is horrible. Please, just stop trying them

1 sept. 2020 à 11 h 17

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brgh4life

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A few things, that value for a top pairing shut down D is very very poor. Brady Skjei got the rangers a 1st and he isn't nearly as good or on a great value contract.

Russo stated in his article that the wild know the value of Brodin and are dangling him for a true top 6 center, not McCann. They have interest in McCann, but not for Brodin.

1 sept. 2020 à 12 h 4

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ClockReads2113

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Quoting: acj

did you see the link? you should try reading it

It doesn't say anything about MIN taking that ****e package for one of the best shutdown defensemen in the game.

1 sept. 2020 à 12 h 21

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acj

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

It doesn't say anything about MIN taking that ****e package for one of the best shutdown defensemen in the game.

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

1 sept. 2020 à 12 h 58

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Quoting: acj

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

1 sept. 2020 à 13 h 0

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

he also plays lW

1 sept. 2020 à 13 h 19

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

What if he added Rask coming to Pitt? Not that they want him, but it basically negates JJ.

1 sept. 2020 à 14 h 21

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GloryPlay

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Any trade involving Dumoulin hurts my heart

2 sept. 2020 à 16 h 46

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one_two_three_shuffle

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Quoting: acj

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

lmao the only reason they're dangling Brodin at all is because they lose either him or Dumba in the expansion draft as it stands. No way Johnson gets dumped here. Duby goes to Pitt so that they don't have to buy him out. I don't think McCann is the caliber of C they're looking for either.

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