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Créé par: jimmyjets

Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 14 août 2020

Publié: 14 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

A couple of in division trades:

Jets to the Blues a solid and take their 2020 1st so they can extend their captain. The Blues could shop around, but as soon as we ink a backup tender this deal is off the table.

They also do Wheeler a solid and trade him home to finish out his career. We take back Dumba which helps their expansion draft issue and is someone that would be able to quarterback our PP. Wheeler could play 2nd line C for them or slot in on the wing if they want to give JEEk a longer look. Wheeler has a full NMC but they didn't tap him to do year end media which is strange to me so maybe he's unhappy and would welcome this move?

If Little is able to return we can easily fit him without any roster shuffling. We could decide to stay cheap this year with no revenue from fans or we could take on another cap dump in the $5M range if we could play them on our 4th line and it was attached to a 1st round pick or prospect we really liked. I think it's important that our young LD play next year so we get all the rookie mistakes out of the way at once and are back to our new window in 2021.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Appleton, Mason	2	800 000 $
Harkins, Jansen	2	800 000 $
Niku, Sami	2	800 000 $
Roslovic, Jack	2	2 000 000 $
Suess, C.J.	2	800 000 $

Transactions

WPG

Allen, Jake
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (STL)

STL

Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

Take Allen as a cap dump so they can keep Pietrangelo

WPG

Dumba, Matt

MIN

Wheeler, Blake

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	69 707 025 $	0 $	1 132 500 $	11 792 975 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Laine, Patrik 4 995 000 $4 995 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 1	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 6	Copp, Andrew 2 280 000 $2 280 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Roslovic, Jack 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
Harkins, Jansen 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Lowry, Adam 2 916 667 $2 916 667 $ C UFA - 1	Appleton, Mason 800 000 $800 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Perreault, Mathieu 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Gustafsson, David 817 500 $817 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) AG, C RFA - 2	Vesalainen, Kristian 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 2
Suess, C.J. 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 4
Samberg, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) DG RFA - 3	Pionk, Neal 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Heinola, Ville 894 167 $894 167 $ DG RFA - 4	Poolman, Tucker 775 000 $775 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Allen, Jake 4 350 000 $4 350 000 $ G UFA - 1
Dahlström, Carl 850 000 $850 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Niku, Sami 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Little, Bryan 5 291 667 $5 291 667 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 4

14 août 2020 à 16 h 21

MMXD

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Don’t even bother with the wheeler trade. The jets have enough d specs that Dumba would be redundant soon

14 août 2020 à 16 h 29

A_K

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If I have to read "so they can keep Pietrangelo" one more time

I really doubt we'll get ripped off trading a useful player like this. Maybe the return will be small, but it ain't gonna be a 1st round pick + Allen (or Bozak) just to move them.

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14 août 2020 à 16 h 29

STLBlues17

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Jake Allen was top-5 in save% and led the league in high-danger save %... also a career .913 and .925 in the playoffs. The Blues aren’t moving a first to get rid of him.

MisstheWhalers, rja40 et mokumboi a aimé ceci.

14 août 2020 à 16 h 35

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: MMXD

Don’t even bother with the wheeler trade. The jets have enough d specs that Dumba would be redundant soon

The Jets RHD prospects aren't close to Dumba though, that'd be a great trade for the Jets, the Wild would never make it though.

14 août 2020 à 16 h 39

jimmyjets

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jimmyjets

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Quoting: A_K

If I have to read "so they can keep Pietrangelo" one more time

I really doubt we'll get ripped off trading a useful player like this. Maybe the return will be small, but it ain't gonna be a 1st round pick + Allen (or Bozak) just to move them.

I agree that Allen had great numbers last year. To help a division rival keep their star player or really for anyone to dump cap to the Jets that would be the cost I would expect. Maybe Ottawa or some other team will want less to take these guys on? We'll see what happens.

14 août 2020 à 16 h 42

jimmyjets

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Quoting: STLBlues17

Jake Allen was top-5 in save% and led the league in high-danger save %... also a career .913 and .925 in the playoffs. The Blues aren’t moving a first to get rid of him.

I guess we'll see. He had a great year this year, it's just a lot of cap for a backup goalie. Some team may see him as a starter still, or you could keep him and try to deal someone else for sure. We likely just extend Broissoit anyhow, but then we'd have even more cap to play with. If it ends up being harder than you expect, we'll still be here.

14 août 2020 à 16 h 44

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

The Jets RHD prospects aren't close to Dumba though, that'd be a great trade for the Jets, the Wild would never make it though.

I’m into this trade, makes our forwards a bit weak but nothing we can’t address. I also think it might be time for a changing of guard at C for wpg. Wheels has been good, but I think it’s time to move on. This trade benefits both teams. Honestly I think MIN does this.

This move imo, puts wpg in a spot where I’d go after hall in FA.

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14 août 2020 à 16 h 45

A_K

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Quoting: jimmyjets

Yeah we'll have to wait and see. I have a feeling that Petro might walk and if that's the case the only cap casualty I see coming is Bozak. The Blues like the Binner + Allen tandem. If Petro does sign, I think Steen and Allen have to go, but Allen should draw a decent amount of interest from any team that wants a 1-yr solution.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 7

pharrow

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or WPG who needs defense just signs Pietrangelo.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 10

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Quoting: pharrow

or WPG who needs defense just signs Pietrangelo.

Unfortunately, with the RFA contacts coming up next year, the Jets can't afford AP, unless he took a massive discount for some reason which is pretty much not going to happen.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 19

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Quoting: Windjammer

Unfortunately, with the RFA contacts coming up next year, the Jets can't afford AP, unless he took a massive discount for some reason which is pretty much not going to happen.

I actually disagree. We could easily afford AP if he wanted to come here if Little is on LTIR the rest of his career.

If you take the above team add $2.5M cap from undoing the Wheeler for Dumba trade and then remove $3M in cap from the Allen trade. We'd have space to offer a long term deal in the $9.5M range.

The following year Perreault is gone and likely so to is Lowry as Gus takes his place but that $6M in cap savings goes to Laine, Copp, Pionk and Poolman for extensions. We could make it work, but AP probably doesn't want to come here so it's a moot point.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 24

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Quoting: Windjammer

Unfortunately, with the RFA contacts coming up next year, the Jets can't afford AP, unless he took a massive discount for some reason which is pretty much not going to happen.

WPG doesn't have any RFA of any real value. Roslovic was their top performing RFA, 12 goals 29 points. They will have 15 million in cap, not including what they might get from Little. Putting them at 20.
They have some UFA, but again none of them are all that great. If they can get an upgrade on defense they take it. If they can get him for 8 or 9 and they have 20 million in cap they will be fine.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 32

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Quoting: jimmyjets

Okay, if you figure on a few very unlikely moves and bargain basement extensions for players, then maybe. However, I do agree AP will not want to sign here.

14 août 2020 à 17 h 39

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Quoting: pharrow

Next year isn't the problem, it would be the following year when we need to extend Laine, Copp and Pionk (am I forgetting anyone) and would mean doing without a 2C as well. Anyways, there is poetically almost no chance AP will want to sign in Winnipeg.

14 août 2020 à 18 h 15

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Quoting: jimmyjets

He might be kinda hard to move considering how many goalies are out there, but Allen also has a very favorable buyout. I’d be shocked if the blues have to do much to move him

14 août 2020 à 19 h 13

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Your valuation of Allen is waaaaay off.

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