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Créé par: Shibbal18
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2020
Publié: 15 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Sabres get 43 55 66
LA gets 38 and Pilut
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 800 000 $
2900 000 $
2874 125 $
44 000 000 $
67 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 900 000 $
2800 000 $
21 250 000 $
2700 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Sanderson, Jake
3925 000 $
Wiesblatt, Ozzy
3925 000 $
Tuch, Luke
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Helm, Darren (1 925 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Johansson, Jonas [Droits de RFA]
2.
BUF
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Pilut, Lawrence [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
3.
VGK
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
4.
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Logo de DAL
2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 262 500 $1 487 500 $4 337 500 $5 237 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
RFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
864 166 $864 166 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA

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15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 27
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I think I would actually quit if they took sanderson. I wouldnt even like hockey anymore.
And he wont be ready to play next year
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 38
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Why would LA gave up all those pick just to move up a couple spot in the second round. Pilut have about no value, he have not much Nhl experience and mostly no success playing in it so at best moving him would land Buffalo a late round pick.
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15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 40
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Why would the Kings do that? Give up two quality draft picks this year and move up a handful of spots for Pilut? I mean he's a decent prospect, but not worth all of that.
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15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
I think I would actually quit if they took sanderson. I wouldnt even like hockey anymore.
And he wont be ready to play next year


Not what i have heard
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 50
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Why would the Kings do that? Give up two quality draft picks this year and move up a handful of spots for Pilut? I mean he's a decent prospect, but not worth all of that.


They get the highest pick out of all of them, drop the 3rd if its too much
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 50
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it doesnt cost that much to move up 5 spots in the 2nd round. Pilut signed in the KHL anyway
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15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 53
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They get the highest pick out of all of them, drop the 3rd if its too much


If the Kings are going to package together draft picks to move up, they're likely going to try and get into the 20-25 range to try and snag Braden Schneider if he's still on the board.
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 54
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They get the highest pick out of all of them, drop the 3rd if its too much


For the picks you re giving up vs what you get you can prolly get a decent 4th or a late 3rd to go with it. Pilut adds a bit but not much. You overvalued your draft slots. Trading down is usually smart but it isn't this profitable.
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 58
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it doesnt cost that much to move up 5 spots in the 2nd round. Pilut signed in the KHL anyway


He has an NHL out clause this is established and well known
15 juill. 2020 à 19 h 58
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For the picks you re giving up vs what you get you can prolly get a decent 4th or a late 3rd to go with it. Pilut adds a bit but not much. You overvalued your draft slots. Trading down is usually smart but it isn't this profitable.


They get the higher pick and an NHLer
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 0
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He has an NHL out clause this is established and well known


Doesnt mean he is going to use it. He has very little value in a trade
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 0
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
I think I would actually quit if they took sanderson. I wouldnt even like hockey anymore.
And he wont be ready to play next year

Sanderson is getting pumped up the boards. McKenzie even said some scouts had him top 3/5.
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15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 1
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They get the higher pick and an NHLer


That isn't nearly as valuable as you seem to think it is. Pick value is pretty much a flatline at this point in the draft. For 5 slots in the early 2nd you are looking at a 4th at best really.

A recent example from the top of my head, the leafs traded our 1st rounder down 5 slots and got the 76th pick in return. Your 2nd is only worth a bit less than our 1st so you should be able to get something after pick 85 depending on how far you are willing to move.

I figure the leafs can trade our 2nd for STL 2nd and get anh 4th in return this year (10 pick drop and we get 98 in return) for example.
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15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 2
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If the Kings are going to package together draft picks to move up, they're likely going to try and get into the 20-25 range to try and snag Braden Schneider if he's still on the board.


I dont know if Schneider goes that early
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If the Kings are going to package together draft picks to move up, they're likely going to try and get into the 20-25 range to try and snag Braden Schneider if he's still on the board.


If you think 2 2nds gets them into the 15 spots higher from the 2nd to the first round, i now understand why everyone is crying about this. It wont
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 5
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Doesnt mean he is going to use it. He has very little value in a trade


He has it specifically because he wants to play in the NHL but not for Buffalo (it was playing under Botterill but i dont believe Adams changes anything). I am extremely familiar with his personal opinion on it, your wasting your time
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 6
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That isn't nearly as valuable as you seem to think it is. Pick value is pretty much a flatline at this point in the draft. For 5 slots in the early 2nd you are looking at a 4th at best really.

A recent example from the top of my head, the leafs traded our 1st rounder down 5 slots and got the 76th pick in return. Your 2nd is only worth a bit less than our 1st so you should be able to get something after pick 85 depending on how far you are willing to move.

I figure the leafs can trade our 2nd for STL 2nd and get anh 4th in return this year (10 pick drop and we get 98 in return) for example.


I read that wrong, theyre still getting a roster player and moving up leafs didnt trade a young player
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 7
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He has it specifically because he wants to play in the NHL but not for Buffalo (it was playing under Botterill but i dont believe Adams changes anything). I am extremely familiar with his personal opinion on it, your wasting your time


even if he does play in the NHL he has very little value. Im sure you know more about his contract situation than I do but I was just pointing out that the trade value is lopsided in Buffalo's favour.
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 7
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I dont know if Schneider goes that early

If you think 2 2nds gets them into the 15 spots higher from the 2nd to the first round, i now understand why everyone is crying about this. It wont


I didn't say that two 2nds would get them into the 1st round. However, three 2nds might.

Schneider is ranked at 13 in the ISS rankings. He's in the late teens/early 20s in most. Only one ranking site had him outside of the 1st round at 34th (still before the Kings 2nd round picks).
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 8
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55 is an early 2nd? Wow thats some bad math or a hot take


he was talking about moving from pick 43 to 38...
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15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 8
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55 is an early 2nd? Wow thats some bad math or a hot take


You know that your pick is 38 not 55 right?
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 9
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You know that your pick is 38 not 55 right?


I changed it, i thought you said LAs pick was early 2nd
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 12
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Pens say sure
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15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 13
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I changed it, i thought you said LAs pick was early 2nd


You have VAN's 2nd in there, which is 43.
So your proposal is

38
Pilut

For

43
55
66

Which is crazy overvalued.

A more fair trade would be something more like:
38
Pilut

for

55
66/81
15 juill. 2020 à 20 h 15
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You have VAN's 2nd in there, which is 43.
So your proposal is

38
Pilut

For

43
55
66

Which is crazy overvalued.

A more fair trade would be something more like:
38
Pilut

for

55
66


Not LAs literal pick, lol i though you said 55 was early second, hence my reaction
15 juill. 2020 à 22 h 55
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I think I would actually quit if they took sanderson. I wouldnt even like hockey anymore.
And he wont be ready to play next year


Lol. Quit liking hockey why??
 
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