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Colorado signs Taylor Hall and loads up on 2nd round picks to win the 2020 Draft

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 10 juin 2020
Publié: 10 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Note: the team is $120k under the cap if you remove the prospects from the roster.
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Niemela, Topi
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Khusnutdinov, Marat
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Jurmo, Joni
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Blomqvist, Joel
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Torgersson, Daniel
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Phillips, Isaak
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Ovchinnikov, Dmitri
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Rashevsky, Dmitry
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Laferriere, Alex
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Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
#33 and #46

Ottawa trade up to get another 1st.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
#27 and #81

Avs trade down to pick up an extra 2nd.
2.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
#59 and #66
LAK
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
3.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
#45 and #76
FLA
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
4.
COL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Kamenev was drafted by Fenton who is now with CBJ. They like 6'0'' centers.
5.
COL
    #33 (OTT 2nd): Lukas Reichel (LW)
    #45 (FLA 2nd): Topi Niemela (RD)
    #46 (CBJ 2nd): Marat Khusnutdinov (C)
    #59 (VGK 2nd): Joni Jurmo (LD)
    #66 (LAK 3rd): Joel Blomqvist (G)
    #76 (FLA 3rd): Daniel Torgersson (RW)
    #121 (COL 4th): Issak Phillips (LD)
    #151 (COL 5th): Dmitri Ovchinnikov (RW)
    #169 (FLA 6th): Alex Laferriere (RW)
    #213 (COL 7th): Dmitry Rashevsky (LW)
    CBJ
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
    5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
    6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
    7. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (COL)
    8. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (COL)
    9. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
    10. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (COL)
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    10 juin 2020 à 15 h 44
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    Jost not worth even 4 round pick.
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    10 juin 2020 à 15 h 48
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    Jost not worth even 4 round pick.


    False. He's at least a serviceable 3rd liner, and at 22 years old he's still young enough to reach his potential. He was great in last years playoffs as well as having 7 points in his last 9 games before the lockdowns.
    10 juin 2020 à 15 h 53
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    False. He's at least a serviceable 3rd liner, and at 22 years old he's still young enough to reach his potential. He was great in last years playoffs as well as having 7 points in his last 9 games before the lockdowns.


    You colorado fan but from outside i pass. He bust in eye of many i know. Maybe at trade deadline someone pay a 3rd and 2nd but in offseason no one crazy enough to trade that for 3rd line. I give at most late 4 round pick.
    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 1
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    You colorado fan but from outside i pass. He bust in eye of many i know. Maybe at trade deadline someone pay a 3rd and 2nd but in offseason no one crazy enough to trade that for 3rd line. I give at most late 4 round pick.

    He's 22 years old with 66 points in over 200 games. Most NHLers haven't even played 50 games by the time they're his age. Give him time.

    Note that I said that he is "AT LEAST a 3rd liner", not that he's a career 3rd liner.
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 3
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    He's 22 years old with 66 points in over 200 games. Most NHLers haven't even played 50 games by the time they're his age. Give him time.

    Note that I said that he is "AT LEAST a 3rd liner", not that he's a career 3rd liner.


    I give time one month. Not top line player then i win disagreement.
    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 19
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    I think you have some good ideas here, and then some great ones.

    Very good thinking.

    A couple of nits: (1) put me on record as saying Torgersson goes in the second round. (2) We'll trade you that second in 2020 but the third in 2021. We're not going to trade away two top picks in this draft.

    I could be wrong about both. It'll be fun to see!

    Hope you enjoyed the back-and-forth with the crazy Estonian. I really like reading all of his stuff. I have to ask him if his birthdate was really 1933 like it says on his Profile.
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 30
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    I give time one month. Not top line player then i win disagreement.


    Bruh that's some royal bs right here laugh
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 35
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I think you have some good ideas here, and then some great ones.

    Very good thinking.

    A couple of nits: (1) put me on record as saying Torgersson goes in the second round. (2) We'll trade you that second in 2020 but the third in 2021. We're not going to trade away two top picks in this draft.

    I could be wrong about both. It'll be fun to see!

    Hope you enjoyed the back-and-forth with the crazy Estonian. I really like reading all of his stuff. I have to ask him if his birthdate was really 1933 like it says on his Profile.


    Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. smile

    I agree that LAK would probably prefer to make the 3rd a 2021 pick instead, and actually that might be better for Colorado as well as this is a lot of high-end prospects to add in the same year; it might be better to spread them out a bit year-to-year more.

    That said, I thought it would be fun to see how things could play out with some reasonably realistic trades if Sakic decides he wants to boost the prospect pool this season big time. There's a lot of talent from the last 1st to early 3rd and I would love it if we can get in on that action.

    My thinking with trading down to #33 is that the talent difference between like 25 to 45 isn't that great, and picking up an extra 2nd would be really valuable.

    Some thoughts on each pick:

    #33 (OTT 2nd): Lukas Reichel (LW) ---- 1st line potential, so he might go higher, but there should at least be one good forward here if not him (eg. Mysak/Peterka/Brisson/Lapierre).

    #45 (FLA 2nd): Topi Niemela (RD) ----- He might go slightly higher, but I think there will be at least one good RHD in this spot (eg. Barron/Niemela/Schneider/Villeneuve). If not then I would simply take a LHD like Jurmo/Wallinder/O'Rourke here, and then use pick #59 on a RHD Eamon Powell).

    #46 (CBJ 2nd): Marat Khusnutdinov (C) --- He's hard to pin down due to being undersized along with the Russian factor, so I could see him dropping. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he was long gone by here. If he is then I'd look at Lapierre/Niederbach/Hirvonen in this spot.

    #59 (VGK 2nd): Joni Jurmo (LD) ---- High upside LHD, but could be gone as high as late 1st. There should be a good Dman sitting here either way.

    #66 (LAK 3rd): Joel Blomqvist (G) ----- Best goalie in the draft after Askarov, and an early 3rd is usually when teams start to take goalies. If not him then I'd take Commesso.

    #76 (FLA 3rd): Daniel Torgersson (RW) ---- Will probably go in the 2nd round, but a lot of rankings and mocks have him around this area and he'd be a great pickup here.

    #121 (COL 4th): Issak Phillips (LD) ---- Very raw LHD, but he has the size and raw skills and if he can put it together he could be an absolute beast and a steal.

    #151 (COL 5th): Dmitri Ovchinnikov (RW) ---- With the last 3 picks I swing for the fences with some real boom-or-bust forwards, two of them from Russia.
    #169 (FLA 6th): Alex Laferriere (RW)
    #213 (COL 7th): Dmitry Rashevsky (LW)
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 41
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    I think the capitals are trying to look at Ovchinnikov, Dmitri
    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 49
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. smile

    I agree that LAK would probably prefer to make the 3rd a 2021 pick instead, and actually that might be better for Colorado as well as this is a lot of high-end prospects to add in the same year; it might be better to spread them out a bit year-to-year more.

    That said, I thought it would be fun to see how things could play out with some reasonably realistic trades if Sakic decides he wants to boost the prospect pool this season big time. There's a lot of talent from the last 1st to early 3rd and I would love it if we can get in on that action.

    My thinking with trading down to #33 is that the talent difference between like 25 to 45 isn't that great, and picking up an extra 2nd would be really valuable.

    Some thoughts on each pick:

    #33 (OTT 2nd): Lukas Reichel (LW) ---- 1st line potential, so he might go higher, but there should at least be one good forward here if not him (eg. Mysak/Peterka/Brisson/Lapierre).

    #45 (FLA 2nd): Topi Niemela (RD) ----- He might go slightly higher, but I think there will be at least one good RHD in this spot (eg. Barron/Niemela/Schneider/Villeneuve). If not then I would simply take a LHD like Jurmo/Wallinder/O'Rourke here, and then use pick #59 on a RHD Eamon Powell).

    #46 (CBJ 2nd): Marat Khusnutdinov (C) --- He's hard to pin down due to being undersized along with the Russian factor, so I could see him dropping. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he was long gone by here. If he is then I'd look at Lapierre/Niederbach/Hirvonen in this spot.

    #59 (VGK 2nd): Joni Jurmo (LD) ---- High upside LHD, but could be gone as high as late 1st. There should be a good Dman sitting here either way.

    #66 (LAK 3rd): Joel Blomqvist (G) ----- Best goalie in the draft after Askarov, and an early 3rd is usually when teams start to take goalies. If not him then I'd take Commesso.

    #76 (FLA 3rd): Daniel Torgersson (RW) ---- Will probably go in the 2nd round, but a lot of rankings and mocks have him around this area and he'd be a great pickup here.

    #121 (COL 4th): Issak Phillips (LD) ---- Very raw LHD, but he has the size and raw skills and if he can put it together he could be an absolute beast and a steal.

    #151 (COL 5th): Dmitri Ovchinnikov (RW) ---- With the last 3 picks I swing for the fences with some real boom-or-bust forwards, two of them from Russia.
    #169 (FLA 6th): Alex Laferriere (RW)
    #213 (COL 7th): Dmitry Rashevsky (LW)


    I like the thought you've put into the draft. I might order your players selected differently, but that's a pretty good accumulation of talent. Very nice!

    But I still think Laferriere goes first overall.
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 50
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    Jost not worth even 4 round pick.


    Wrong. See it’s when GM’s make uninformed decisions like this they either trade away a good player for nothing, or if they are smart acquiring players from dumb GM’s.
    Based on what sort of analysis in your books is Jost not worth even that?
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    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 51
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    Bruh that's some royal bs right here laugh


    What is bs?
    10 juin 2020 à 16 h 57
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    Quoting: Jexus
    Jost not worth even 4 round pick.


    Read the arguments, and just no.

    I will say I will debate the cost of a 2nd and 3rd, but Jost has a game. It's 200 feet. He has hands. Can play on the dirty spots. Does nothing outstanding, but does everything well.

    I would willingly move a 2nd for him at this point. But to suggest he is a bust is 100% uninformed.
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    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 0
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I like the thought you've put into the draft. I might order your players selected differently, but that's a pretty good accumulation of talent. Very nice!

    But I still think Laferriere goes first overall.

    Thanks!

    I agree the order might be slightly different but I think this order is roughly where players could be available, and I picked them in order of importance for me. For example, Torgersson probably should swap places with Blomqvist, but there is less choice with top goalies so I prefer getting that one out of the way first to be safe.

    As for your last point, Alexis Lafrenière and Alex Laferriere are two different players (notice the spelling)! See the latter's player card here: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/450718/alex-laferriere
    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 5
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    Thanks!

    I agree the order might be slightly different but I think this order is roughly where players could be available, and I picked them in order of importance for me. For example, Torgersson probably should swap places with Blomqvist, but there is less choice with top goalies so I prefer getting that one out of the way first to be safe.

    As for your last point, Alexis Lafrenière and Alex Laferriere are two different players (notice the spelling)! See the latter's player card here: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/450718/alex-laferriere


    I can't believe you fell for that.
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    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 8
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    What is bs?


    Bs = bullsh*t.

    And giving "one month of time" is complete garbage.

    Jost is easily worth 2nd. Maybe the 2nd and 3rd from a right team.
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    Bs = bullsh*t.

    And giving "one month of time" is complete garbage.

    Jost is easily worth 2nd. Maybe the 2nd and 3rd from a right team.


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    ерунда


    Wrong language there, mate.
    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 19
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    Wrong language there, mate.


    Not wrong, you to lazy to try tranlate young boy. Speak like child, boss.
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    Not wrong, you to lazy to try tranlate young boy. Speak like child, boss.


    This site is Canadian. Therefore people speaks English in here. If I spoke my native language, no one would understand it.
    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 23
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    I can't believe you fell for that.


    awesome face
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    10 juin 2020 à 17 h 39
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    For me Hall is maybe the player with the most to gain or lose with these playoffs. He disappears in the play-in games I would be very disinterested because he just hasn’t dominated like I thought he would with the Yotes.
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    10 juin 2020 à 18 h 5
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    For me Hall is maybe the player with the most to gain or lose with these playoffs. He disappears in the play-in games I would be very disinterested because he just hasn’t dominated like I thought he would with the Yotes.


    Yeah I agree. I'm not that keen on him too be honest. But listening to Mackinnon's TSN interview today where he talks about how close they were to signing Panarin got me thinking that Sakic might go after Hall. Sakic is a pretty shrewd GM so if we did acquire Hall I would trust Sakic to ensure that it's not a deal that becomes a handicap.
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    10 juin 2020 à 19 h 12
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    @Xqb15 @moli92 @JeffW @coga16

    What are your thoughts on these draft moves?

    And what does your ideal draft look like?
    10 juin 2020 à 19 h 50
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    @Xqb15 @moli92 @JeffW @coga16

    What are your thoughts on these draft moves?

    And what does your ideal draft look like?

    Not nothing about this drafts class beyond the top guys so mu analysis is based on if they have a cool name or not
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