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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 5 h 2
Sujet: 13 of 32
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The Chicago trade is fine, but Los Angeles declines the Pittsburgh offer.

I can't imagine how you came to the conclusion that "Pickering looks to be better than Spence" based upon Pickering's miniscule sample of 8 games in the AHL, where over the span of 102 games, Jordan Spence has tallied 87 points. (Spence outperformed Pickering their respective last two years in juniors, too, but that's not all that meaningful.) Spence has clearly shown that he's NHL-ready, whereas Pickering is quite a ways away from that yet. Which is not that surprising inasmuch as Spence is three years older, so I'm not going to say that Spence has a brighter future than Pickering, but I see no evidence for the contention that Pickering has a brighter future than Spence.

Iafallo is worth a late first or early second. (I'd like to know who on the Penguins current roster you think would play #2LW ahead of him and behind Jake Guentzel.) The problem is that Pittsburgh's first is too much for him and the second that would be proper value now belongs to Buffalo. The future late third is just an insult.</div></div>

If the 3nd is an insult, that depends on what one sees as the difference between Spence and Pickering. Yes, Spence has performed well, but I simply see a higher ceiling with Pickering - and so would the Pens I have to think.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 mai à 9 h 42
Sujet: Spitballing 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That specifically has happened, giving permission to talk to a pending UFA prior to a trade does not raise their trade value though. They are still traded with only 1 year of term, the selling team has no grounds to extort the buyer for a contract that player has not signed. The selling team can refuse to let the buyer talk to the pending UFA prior to a trade (like Vancouver literally did with Horvat this year) but that's literally it. And sign conditional re-signs are now against the rules there is nothing the seller can do</div></div>

I am.pretty sure Tkachuk had his extension worked out with Florida prior to that deal..... maybe I am wrong. But given the return, it smacks of the verbal agreement in place prior to the deal happening.

Otherwise, I would think that trade looks more Huberdeau for Tkachuk straight up. Risk for risk.

Granted, both Weegar and Hunerdeau were pending UFAs, but, I would think the Cats knew what they were doing moving both players to make room for that contract.

Kind of where I got the idea from. Difference maybe Pulock is signed sealed and delivered, but if such a deal was verbally agreed upon, the value isn't far off.

Now, if it against the rules, then, no. No way the Isles take on that risk.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 mai à 9 h 6
Sujet: Spitballing 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Sorry, Pulock and is seven year term is worth a lot more than one year of Nylander. More fantasy extension. Leafs have have at least eight UFAs on their team that they didn't have to be "pay to acquire". but somehow entitled Leaf fans think other teams should pay for their upcoming UFAs.</div></div>

Wouldn't be the first time we would see a sign and trade. Horvat essentially?

Frankly, I would move Marner over Nylander, but in terms of contracts in this scenario it has to be Nylander.

Further, I don't see this as another team "paying" for a pending UFA. The Leafs have the ability to resign Nylander. So given this, it does become more of a hockey deal.

This really boils down to how the Isles value Wahlstrom (which I know they don't see him as a career 3rd liner).....