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Is this reasonable for Dumba? What needs tweaking if it's not?

I'm not really a fan of Strome, I think he was a product of Panarin this season and obviously the Wild don't have that type of winger to keep him producing. It's not bad value-wise

I'd criticize Bracco being in the trade, but to be fair so is Johansson.. lol

Appreciate the input.
Can you specifically comment on cap retention?

I want a 22 player roster and that was the only way it was possible.

Figured it was a fair trade off.

For Dumba? It's not that much retention so I don't mind it. Obviously not ideal to have retention tied up for 3 years especially with the cap likely staying the same next season, but like I said it's not that much cap so it's not a huge deal.

We can both pretend they have value while we swap disappointments.

so they dont get any better on defence and get worse on forward? where do i sign up!?!?

Rangers really lose out on the 3 way deal and would be better off just resigning Strome.
Edmonton not likely looking to take on that much salary in a JP trade.

are you F kidding me. EDM takes that and runs.

Doubt they would even consider it. This would leave them $6.5m to sign 6 guys for a 40-45 point winger. Not really a move that helps them.

But omgwtfbbq we need a RD!!!!

Rangers get bent over here. They're getting absolutely nothing of value

1st. this assumes there is no CBO.
2nd. Who cares? Who they got to sign?
Benning, Bear, Sheahan, Ennis, Athanasiou?
AA might be the only guy there who doesn't get league minimum and even then it won't be that much, definitely not after last year.
He'll be lucky to make the 3 million he made this year.
You got 6.7 for 5 guys after this deal.
It's more than enough.
Especially if you get a CBO on Neal.

Honestly, this is the end of your sentence; your misguided statement of Strome being a product of Panarin can be met with evidence of his previous season (his first) with the Rangers.

Producing at an equally high level without Panarin in '18-'19, with a rebuilding team, made Strome marketable, again, with one year left on his contract. You are not getting a useless player. Two solid seasons here makes Strome attractive; not one "Panarin" shared season.

Then why does nearly ever Rangers post involve trading him?

This graph paints a different picture, Strome was definitely a beneficiary of Panarin. The shots are about the same, but the defensive side of things is pretty stark with Panarin on his wing.

They'd be better off letting JP playing overseas again. Johansson doesn't fill a need for them and hinders them from making improvements that would help them.
The creator of this acgm stated no CBO, so I'm not assuming there's not going to be one.
Also, AA, Benning and Bear's qualifying offers alone are $5.7m, so this deal wouldn't even leave them enough to sign the rest of their RFAs. This doesn't even factor in a back up goalie.

Then why does nearly ever Rangers post involve trading him?

This graph paints a different picture, Strome was definitely a beneficiary of Panarin. The shots are about the same, but the defensive side of things is pretty stark with Panarin on his wing.

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Having a skilled wing settles the parts of the forecheck a talented center best utilizes. Again, draw your conclusion based on the previous season. Reference Filip Chytil when you are researching the numbers.

By the way, my fellow Ranger fans are somewhat stupid. Otherwise, they feel justified in trade proposals, still thinking in terms of the rebuilding process. Some do feel that Strome being signed to a deal that will set the tone for a future Zibanejad deal, could set up too big a deal for Zibanejad. Also, some are still working to get out from the rubble of Glen Sather's past mishaps. This is John Davidson's/Jeff Gorton's baby; thus, a plan with real structure is in place.

those 3 players aren't worth 5.7M. I don't care how you justify it. If you are paying them that, you are getting took.

They pay them or lose them. Those are the qualifying offers, not what I think they're worth. AA probably has about the same value as Johnsson.

I guess you forgot the part where the RHD needs to be a 2-way D. Especically proficient in defensive.

I'll let it slide...THIS TIME! 😈

You also Strome was effective the first season with the Rangers, he scored 33 points in 63 games with the Rangers, he wasn't exactly a barn burner like you claim he was... Look, I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm just saying he's more of a 2C on a contender and the Wild need a 1C.

This guy.
You won't let me win ever!

Secretly, I know you like this one.

You also say Strome was effective the first season with the Rangers, he scored 33 points in 63 games, he wasn't exactly a barn burner like you claim he was... Look, I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm just saying he's more of a 2C on a contender and the Wild need a 1C.[/quote]

Strome can tie over the first line, until either another one becomes available.

We have Staal for that already. Like I said, we need a 1C and if we have to wait for one to become available, my money is on Guerin doing exactly that. Whether or not we have the assets to acquire one is a completely different question.