Philadelphia really has no more need for more centres

Youre right! They both wouldnt work

Exactly. It's dumb. Elite players only get traded if

1) The player demands a trade
2) The team is in a cap crunch
3) The team is trying to cut payroll


incidentally, any of those factors would drive price down. If Barkov was on a 6 year deal making 6 mil, this would be closer to reasonable. But even then it's unrealistic.

Barkov has been ELITE for the past 5 seasons
Mika has been ELITE for the past 2 seasons

Barkov is 24
Mika is 27

Barkov is better Defensively
Mika is better offensively

Id say Barkov has slightly more value here

Sure slightly. But the Rangers aren't trying to cut payroll. Florida is and they only have like 6 guys making considerable cap ( and no one's taking Yandle/Bob). That part evens it out.

Both these packages are wildly dumb.

No, Barkov has clearly more value. This is Zibanejad's first elite year and he's playing with a TOP3 LW in the world who makes everyone better around him. That was seen in CBJ as well.

Barkov is in my opinion much better defensively, and slightly better offensively. He's also younger. I don't think their value's are even that close to be honest.

Oh, and the Flyers package clearly carries more value than the Rangers one.

so if florida is in a cap crunch wouldnt they try and move someone else not their 24 year old centerpiece on a fantastic contract. also why do the rangers give up frost/farabee/provorov and 2 firsts for ziba? itd be more like provorov straight up or frost or farabee + not all 3 ++. your trade values are extremely skewed. then on the other hand barkov only gets florida a rfa in tony d, chytil who projects more as a 2c than a 1c. and lundkvist who is looking like the odd man out on defense... cmon man really?

19 years old and hasn’t played a minute of hockey in North America but he’s the odd man out? I think you should come on man.

Hate to break it to ya but Chairelli isn’t the GM of the Flyers

I'm pretty sure if you want Barkov Zibanejad has to be part of the deal.

lol that's cap neutral then. Doesn't accomplish the sole reason for trading Barkov.

But sure Mika + 2nd seems right.

Rangers need a 2C without sacrificing their 1C. Also, Philly are overpaying by a lot.

Or the Rangers.....the packages are about the same. Though I prefer the Rangers package.

lol tbh, I prefer the Ranger package to the Philly package.

He is definitely more valuable.
I live Mika, but even I can tell you that

Take out Lunqvist and the Panthers could accept if Barkov WANTS out.
Take out Provorov and a First and the Flyers might accpet, but probably not because they dont need a C

You also are missing a line,
and have 5 active dmen.

Overall, NOT Good

It wasn't about the team it was about the package. The proposed Barkov packages are ridiculous because
a) Barkov is only signed for 2 years
b) Ranger assets are always undervalued here compared to the rest of the league. It's weird.

So I tried to find a comparable package to what the Rangers were giving up.

It's just about impossible to find a team that has

1) A top 10 Scoring Dman over the last 2 years
2) A player that's already Middle 6 Forward that's under 21
3) A top 25 NHL prospect.

I mean





I take the Rangers package every time.

Vegas has something comparable in

1) Theodore
2) Krebs
3) Glass

If all that sounds excessive and ridiculous. That's exactly how I feel lol.

Farabee and Frost are A level young players. Provorov is a #1D. And 2 1sts.

If you think Lundkvist + Deangelo + Chytil is better than Provorov + Frost + Farabee, idk what youre smoking. Frost is and will be a much better player than Chytil. Provorov destroys Deangelo. And Farabee slightly edges Lundkvist's value

That's exactly what I think.

Yes, but they arent even.
Barkov has been better for years (elite for like 4 or 5)
Zibby has only been elite for like two years (although i knew Rangers KILLED the sens in the Brassard trade)

Barkov is Younger, and Zibby has the bigger contract.

They are, FACTUALLY, not even.

But no, the Flyers package is better for the worse player.

2 PHI Firsts = 1 NYR First and 1 CAR First (Phi are middle/bad. NYR is middle, CAR is bad)
Provorov = Deangelo (Provorov Neutral OFF / DEF, Denagelo GOOD OFF / BADDDD DEF)
Frost + Ferebee > Chytl

Barkov > Zib

SO no, this is not good

Terrible job with writing this. IDK what your points are.
My APPOLOGIES for the cap thing! Ooops Im sorry i made ONE mistake! Oh my I must be a moron!

So fine they have the same contract more of less.

Reguardless, Mika is worse by a chunk and is still older.
And the Rangers package out is worse thean the flyers coming in.
and if you think Lundkvist is a top 5 nhl d prospect, you are a complete homer.

Please remain unbiased.
I have no Horse in this race! I am just a bruins fan who LOVES the Rangers, Hates the Flyers and Hates the Panthers.

So I actually would be biased towards the Rangers, but I am putting my biases aside

Not sure why the 2 years in age difference matters if they're both walking in 2 years lol

But I guess I'm not the only homer....

https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/28870800/ranking-top-50-nhl-affiliated-prospects-hockey-risers-fallers-new-no-1

If you can't see, Dmen ranked:

1. Byram
2. Seider
3. Smith
4. Bouchard
5. Lundkvist

But hey...maybe it's all bias lol

Thats ESPN, who also said Tuukka wasnt the best goalie of the 2010s (when he statistically and factually was) (note that the bruins sucked for three years and he still had a 920% for those years so its not just because he was on a good team)

I can think of a few guys better than Bouchard rn anyway. One persons list isnt fact