subban sucks

Not at 4.5M but no chance in hell NJ is going to retain that much for 3 years

Agreed, NJ might be willing to retain 3 mill maybe, and ya Subban has sucked but so has NJ , I'd say it's 50/50 Subban and Subban in NJ

I was really hoping that when I opened this Subban would be the backup...

LA rejects. You aren't getting him for a 3rd string backup at best and a fringe NHL player that cleared waivers.

Me too lol.

These deals are pretty close. Just add a 2nd and take out Simmonds and Campbell.

Add a 2nd to what?

Honestly I was thinking of getting Malcolm but Vegas is still in playoff contention and they kinda need him right now.

I do agree that we'd have to add. I don't think it's that far off though. Petan is a fantastic player and didn't look out of place any where in the line up. The fact that Winnipeg or Edmonton didn't claim him is dumb!! I'd say Petan, Hutch (just to send a G back) and Hollowell maybe another C prospect or low draft pick.

I'll get this out of the way. Subban does not suck. Ceci sucks. Subban not so much.

4.5 is about where he should be. I'd go as low as 4 mill retained but Leafs can't afford less then that. But if their retention goes down I'm taking out Korshkov or the 2nd.

Ceci>Subban

Ceci is the worst Dman in the Eastern conference and it's not even close. Maybe even entire league. Lol

Not even close. Not even the worst Dman on the leafs this year.

Now I'm interested. Who's that?

Statistically Barrie is the worst defender on our team. Ceci’s biggest problem is he is 2nd among all Toronto Dmen in ice time behind only Rielly.

Ceci’s GAR is -1.2 Subban’s is -6.8.... Ceci>Subban. Subban is a dressing room cancer as well.

LOL That's funny. Everybody loves Subban but sure he's a cancer.

As for stats, I'm glad you picked 1 stat from 1 30 game stretch of the worst season of his career. Lol