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Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. à 18 h 3
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>New idea, hinges on Dumba being moved for futures still

3 way trade with Minnesota and Seattle

To Minnesota
1st rounder
2nd rounder conditional on Leafs reaching conference finals (changes to 4th rounder if failure)
Rights to Rindell
Rights to Miller

To Seattle
Kerfoot
Robertson
Holl
SDA
Rights Abrussive
Rights to Kokkonen

To Toronto
Dumba (3 million retained by Seattle)
Eberle (2.75 million retained by Seattle)</div></div>

This makes more sense all around assuming Minny is willing to move Dumba for futures as you stated.

I'd also like to target Gio from Seattle too. I'm thinking a 2nd, Dermott &amp; a prospect (I was thinking SDA but you already have him in the trade) maybe Holmberg, Anderson, Steeves or someone along those lines for Gio 50% retained, then send a 4th or 5th for double retention?
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. à 21 h 7
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Our C depth is fine, dont forget about Kerfoot
He was great last year, hes been good this year too.

I'm moving on from Severson, his recent stretch of games has proved to me he is wrong dude for us.

Pavelski I heard wants to remain and extend Dallas.
I like Klingberg but hes too pricey and his new deal... not something the Leafs can fit in.

Rental is only worth at the right cost, Klingberg will be out of reach.
I like Hakanoaa but h3s bottom pair man.
Not something to sweat about.

Montreal trade will spell trouble for both teams, just too unrealistic.


Listen to me, Dumba.
Dude plays aggressive defensively after playing next to Spurgeon and Brodin

He is puck mover, excellent guy to complement Muzzin

And hes has 1 more year, not a rental.


Lastly Addison is ready for that spot in Minnesota</div></div>

Didn't forget about Kerf but would prefer him n Nylander to play to their strengths in the playoffs.

Severson would look better beside Muzzin but I agree prob not worth the price.

Pavs may want to stay in Dallas but he ain't getting any younger and Dallas ain't making the playoffs this year so why wouldn't he want to go to a contender then re-sign in dallas in the offseason? He's killin it this year and teams will be calling about him.

Depending on the price but he's struggled the last few years and a change of scenery plus a system better suited to his stle of play would help him. But it only takes one gm to make a offer they can't refuse.

Hakanpää would be great beside Sandin plus we could pair him with Muzz if we wanted to form a shutdown pairing and he's got term.

The habs trade was proposed by a habs fan I don't think it's going to happen but I would say yes if I was dubas.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 11 h 3
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Okay I have elaborate idea, read whole thing, onex sign_em_up000000

To Wild
Ritchie
Ovchinnikov rights
Rindell rights
Conditional 3rd rounder on Leafs reaching 2022 conference finals
1st rounder

To Kraken
Holl
Dermott
Robertson
Abrussive rights
Dumba (to retain 3 million)

To Leafs
Dumba at 3 million cap hit
Soucy at 1.375 cap hit (Kraken retain 1.375 million)


Fits under cap to Leafs</div></div>

I've been thinking about the deadline and one question no one seems to be asking or talking about for that matter is our center ice depth how do you guys feel about going in to the playoffs with what we currently have down the middle? I'm concerned because if one of Matthew's or Taveras go down kampf is our second line center. He's been great this year but I think we need too add.

We've discussed severson and though he'd be a great add I keep coming back to dallas. We could literally get all our shopping done in one trade. I really like Pavalski he offeres depth down the middle in case of injury and would be a great fit with either Matthew's or JT. Obviously we could add klingberg to upgrade our d but we could also add Hakanpaa who would pair great with sandin and if we really wanted too we could add holtby.

I realize the only one with term that I mentioned is hakanpaa but I'm not as comcerned with getting a player with term because if we don't make it out of the first round changes will be made and if we have a good playoff run then it is worth it and is part of trying to win a Stanley Cup.

IMO fit is more important and I like the fit with the players I've mentioned compared to severson for example and onex is right Miller will vost too much.

Side note I saw a acgm made by a habs fan and I wanted to get your guys opinion on this deal personallyI like it for both teams but they'd need to add another 1st IMO.

:canadiens

Marner
Marazek
Hutchinson
Seney


:mapleleafs

Allen
Anderson
Caufield
Montembeault
Mysak
Tuch
Roy
Edmontons 1st (they traded chariot for edmontons 1st would be whatever teams 1st they get for him)


I think it would be an offseason move so take out hutch and Montembeault and switch seney to sda maybe or Abruzzese or someone like that, and they add a 1st in next years draft lottery protected of course (which I expect them to be better with price back). I would flip Allen for a 2nd or a 3rd n prospect then sign halak for cheaper.

What do you guys think?
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 10 h 36
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Okay I have elaborate idea, read whole thing, onex sign_em_up000000

To Wild
Ritchie
Ovchinnikov rights
Rindell rights
Conditional 3rd rounder on Leafs reaching 2022 conference finals
1st rounder

To Kraken
Holl
Dermott
Robertson
Abrussive rights
Dumba (to retain 3 million)

To Leafs
Dumba at 3 million cap hit
Soucy at 1.375 cap hit (Kraken retain 1.375 million)


Fits under cap to Leafs</div></div>

I don't see any motivation for minny to make this deal they're tied for 3rd in the west rn with vegas and have 6 games in hand. I think they'll be buyers not sellers and the biggest area of need for them is down the middle which this doesn't address.

I also think seattle needs a little more value going back but like I said I don't think minny makes this trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 10 h 26
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Halak in hindsight would have been good move, right now... Vancouver has gotta be looking for cap relief and we cant offer that.

I think there will be big shakeup in Vancouver.
I think there will be major trades by them, more than just Miller.

Subban, is probably not good enough.
I'd take on chance on him at low cost, but even at 50% retention he makes too much to try.

Severson doesn't have the value to warrant Niemela, Amriov, Knies or Hiroven.</div></div>

Halak is a fa this offseason we could just sign him. I don't think we'd trade for him by himself but if we did go after miller he could potentially be part of the deal aswell as schenn as an option.

Subban would be a last minute trade if we cant make any other trades and want too add depth for the playoffs he could also be double retained.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 10 h 18
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I like JT Miller alot. He brings elements Leafs lack. I'm not sure the Leafs want to be trading Hirvonen or Topi or even Amironov and truthfully it will take two of those guys just to get Miller IMO because the dude is that good.

Subban is a bad idea now. He's lost speed, not that he had alot to begin with.

As for this team figuring it out, they have stretches where they play solid defence but the problem I see is when they go up by 2-3 goals, instead of locking the game down defensively, these guys are trying to get the next goal.

Look at Tampa for example... once they have a 2-3 goal lead, generally they shutdown teams for the rest of the game and I think that's what the Leafs need to learn to do before the playoffs start. If the Leafs don't learn this, sadly it will be another first round exit.</div></div>

What if we got schenn and or halak in the deal as well?

The idea behind subban was essentially a back burner deal. If we can't make any other deals and it's down to the final minutes he would be an extra defenceman for the playoffs incase a dman goes down.

In all fairness there's only 1 tampa then a bunch of teams trying to be like them but they're in a tier of there own. I was referring to the leafs the past 5 years they haven't looked this good and in comparison they look like they've figured it out. Every team has rough stretches it's not about how hard you fall or how often it's about how you pick yourself up after and this team has made constant adjustments or at least tried too this year and IMO this team is the closest we've had to a true Stanley Cup contender.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 2 h 49
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Hey bud 😎

First of all, did you catch the Leafs/Red Wings game tonight? More importantly, the second intermission? Teams are calling Dubas about Mrazek.

Halak might be a good option in the off season but I think Vancouver cannot take on Mrazek so it would have to be two separate deals IMO.

Now...Subban: I think he's not able to keep up with the play and it's really showing this season. He's slew footed (accidentally or otherwise?) a few players and that tells me he just can't keep up. Not a good option IMO.</div></div>

What's up brother:cheers

No, I was visiting my parents with my kids they get the t.v. lol.

I'll bet you his fist call was from Holland...

I didn't even think of van taking on halak:huh ...maybe as part of a bigger trade, Miller (cough) to help balance out the cap? Either way unless I'm forgetting about someone he'd be my top choice. I would offer him 1×1.5 or 2×1

The reason I brought up Subban is because well fist I think we could put Ritchie in the trade and second his money comes off the books in the offseason (retention would be needed) and we wouldn't have to give up anything of value IMO and third Dubas has already been connected to pk in the past.

Honestly, this year has been hard to figure out what the best course of action is to take at the deadline because we've already "gone for it" last year and we can't afford too keep moving picks and prospects like they don't matter. On the flipside if we go out in the 1st rnd again dubas is likley gone and who knows how far that will extend and this iteration of the team is the best we've seen yet... they finally figured it out!
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 2 h 13
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I dont want Chychrun due to asking price.
And I'd start looking at moving Muzzin if we did get him.

Would you?</div></div>

I'm in the same boat as you brah. Chychrun would be a great addition especially his contract, but it makes no sesnse considering what we'd have to give up and it wouldn't strengthen a need for this team.

Yes. We would have to move Muzz of we got Chychrun which only adds to the assets we need to give up too aquire him.

What do you think of Halak as an option if we move on from Marazek this offseason? Also would like to know <a href="/users/oneX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@oneX</a> thoughts on Halak or who else he would like in net next year.

I've been looking at options for rhd for us and though there are a few different avenues we could go down Severson makes the most sense.

Crazy thought... what do you guys think of suban as a low cost option if Severson is off the table? They'd probably take Ritchie back.

You've done it again Trickster... you broke cf! The place where ppl take out their frustrations on others like verbal punching bags because they don't have to do it face to face. I understand why you don't want too post here^ but it's also the same reason why ppl like you n our boy onex are needed here to verbally knock sense into the heard and steer them in the right direction.

I figured you should know other ppls point of view considering this place is so toxic.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 20 h 0
Sujet: Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I think adding Severson is a better idea than Braun and Manson. I don't know what to make of Chycrun(spelling?) because he's on a bad team and I wonder how he would look on a good team. Everyone on Capfriendly just automatically assumes that he will be great on a good team but I have my doubts.

Also gotta be careful of trading Holl. He is probably the depth the team needs for playoffs success.

Thoughts Sign_em_up000000 ?</div></div>

I think chychrun would be a good fit but an unnecessary one. If we traded for him Sandin ++ would be going the other way, likley sandin, lilly, one of amirov/robertson and a 1st... to me that's too much to give up for someone who isn't needed.

Agree on severson but if dubas doesnt want too pay the price it would take braun would be a cheaper alliterative.
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