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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs 4 jui à 17 h 50
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Forum: Armchair-GM 4 jui à 14 h 56
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/Sagecoll" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Sagecoll</a> <a href="/users/mokumboi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mokumboi</a> <a href="/users/STLBlues17" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@STLBlues17</a> <a href="/users/bunzy1034" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@bunzy1034</a> <a href="/users/Caniac2000" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Caniac2000</a> @AFOX10900 <a href="/users/Random2152" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Random2152</a> <a href="/users/bhavikp27" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@bhavikp27</a> <a href="/users/exo2769" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@exo2769</a> <a href="/users/Wadejos123" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Wadejos123</a> <a href="/users/SevenLeg" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@SevenLeg</a> <a href="/users/MaxDomi13" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MaxDomi13</a> <a href="/users/Capitalfail67" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Capitalfail67</a> <a href="/users/Pens3lieve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Pens3lieve</a> <a href="/users/SlickWilly" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@SlickWilly</a> <a href="/users/moli92" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@moli92</a> <a href="/users/ledge_and_dairy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@ledge_and_dairy</a> <a href="/users/keep_ups12" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@keep_ups12</a> <a href="/users/jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jack_</a> <a href="/users/pleasebanmeformyowngood" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@pleasebanmeformyowngood</a> <a href="/users/leafs101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs101</a> <a href="/users/justaBoss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@justaBoss</a> <a href="/users/leafsfanforsomereason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafsfanforsomereason</a> <a href="/users/sammyt_51" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@sammyt_51</a> <a href="/users/Skyraider112" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Skyraider112</a> <a href="/users/chloewoj" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@chloewoj</a> <a href="/users/jslongo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jslongo</a> <a href="/users/richard88" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@richard88</a> <a href="/users/hockeyfanatic05" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@hockeyfanatic05</a> <a href="/users/marino4norris" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@marino4norris</a> <a href="/users/Richard88" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Richard88</a> <a href="/users/Silkysmooth42" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Silkysmooth42</a> <a href="/users/hanson493" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@hanson493</a> <a href="/users/mhockey91" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mhockey91</a> <a href="/users/Palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Palhal</a>
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Who'd you guys think was better between Mitch Marner and prime Phil Kessel? (Please vote)</div></div>

For some reason I didn't get this notification until now but my opinion is Marner that being said it's all depending on what linemates you plan on putting either player with. If you have a playmaker on your top line Kessel makes more sense but if you already have a sniper than Marner makes more sense IMO. Also, <a href="/users/oneX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@oneX</a> and <a href="/users/Trickster" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Trickster</a> would be great people to add to the convo.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs 4 jui à 14 h 48
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs 4 jui à 14 h 41
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tomato43</b></div><div>I wouldn't call it crippling, but it is definitely a blow to our future chances of winning a cup. An increase of 2.5 - 4.0 Million a year in that span means the huge contracts to the big 3 wouldn't have mattered as much. The circumstances around a global pandemic couldn't be foreseen so i have nothing bad to say about how management has handled the cap so far. I think Dubas and Pridham have done well by avoiding signing bad contracts. I think they could have gotten Marner and Matthews a million or so cheaper each, but big deal.

It sounds like the league will not be handing out CBOs, which is a good thing in my opinion since the leafs have no real 'bad contracts' to buy out. The extra space we would have had with a regular cap increases would have let us possibly go after Hamilton after next year, i don't see how that happens now. I expect Dermott to be penny pinched on a bridge deal. Johnsson or Kap to be traded during the 'offseason' to make a little space for some sort of right side D upgrade. Dermott might be dangled in a trade as well, which i would hate. I pray that Barabanov, Robertson, Lehtonen, Liljegren all work out and can fill out the roster with cheap options.

I think Anderson is gone when his contract ends. We wont have the space to pay him, especially considering he will be 32. Hyman while he has proven to be very useful i don't feel like paying him ~5M when he hits free agency as well. Unless he wants to takes team friendly deal in terms of cap number and length i dont think can be resigned either.

I hope that this stagnation in the cap will be reflected in the UFA signings. I hope management of each team all stand pat and penny pinch the UFA class knowing that the cap be increasing to give them breathing room after giving out big contracts. This might keep the market low enough for us to sign some useful players to cheap deals.</div></div>

Good points, but what if the league handed out CBO's and teams that chose not to use them could instead increase their spending/cap ceiling by a certain %. Just a thought that I realize the league wouldn't do but it would be a lot cooler if they did lol.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs 4 jui à 14 h 34
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs 4 jui à 14 h 22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Heard on the fan 590 that the cap is going to be 81.5 million for the new season and same for 2021-22... followed by 2022-12 cap to be 82.5 million

Thoughts?

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Anyone else please feel free to share your thoughts too.</div></div>

I expected the cap to be stagnant for the next few years. It hurts what we can do but it makes sense considering smaller market teams will have trouble spending to the floor and because teams won't be able to fill their stadiums. The new t.v. deal will help the league replenish some of the lost profits from COVID19 but it won't come close to the NBA's t.v deal because Americans don't like hockey as much as basketball. All that said I don't expect big changes to the roster aside from players like Johnsson/Kapanen/Kerfoot one or more becoming cap casualties but I trust our FO to fill the void as best as they can with cheaper options which was already going to happen at some point anyways. I can't see Andersen and more likely than before even Rielly but only time will tell how our management handles the upcoming situation. I will say we're pretty lucky we don't have any albatross contracts on our hands or we'd be really screwed.
Forum: Armchair-GM 4 jui à 14 h 01
Forum: Armchair-GM 4 jui à 13 h 53
Sujet: Lehner
Forum: Armchair-GM24 jun à 19 h 06
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Lehner and Markstrom are similar in age to Andersen. Out of the three, Markstrom gets a similar deal to what Andersen is making now while the other two are in for raises which I'm not sure the Leafs can afford.

I'm not entirely sold on Georgie but trading for a younger goalie such as him may be necessary.</div></div>

I agree getting younger in net is a priority or at least it should be for our FO. My thinking was a succession plan having a young goalie like Georgiev or whoever and a more established one to take the reins the first year then platoon the second season and take a step back the third year or be traded if they're still playing well. The way I was looking at it is say both of <a href="/users/Trickster" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Trickster</a>'s deals happened and we traded the two seconds to Seattle to take Smith off our hands then we're still up a solid young d prospect and AJ is a cap casualty. Our goaltending is improved (assuming Lehner or whoever signs a 3 year $15 million deal) then the financial implications of improving our goaltending is minimal and we have a nice young d prospect as I said. It's an easy sell to the fans and Dubas doesn't have to worry about the goaltending for the next 3 years unless it goes horribly wrong. Also, no one gave Lehner term last offseason and with a flat cap it seems unlikely he'd get a raise and term on his next deal he may have to choose one.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 jun à 18 h 56
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>It's just planning ahead.
The truth is, we have a delima with our goaltending.

Andersen is right now a question mark due his year.
Hes only getting worse over time now, and he is 30.

Guess what age Andersen was when we got him? 25.
His sample size back then was bigger though.

Georgiev is only a bit younger, and that has its advantages.


Am I sold on Georgiev... not 100%.
Do want want to sign a 30ish year old goalie to 4 or 5 year deal? Less so.

I know Jarry had a year, but if you eliminate that 1 really good month... he was average to slightly above average.
Are you sold on Jarry?

Markstrom's cap hit might what Andersen is right now but hes 30 man, I cant get over that.

Lehner is slightly younger but hes looking for term deal now after taking 1 year show me deal with Chicago.
I was very impressed with him too, but again his cap hit might be too steep a price.


Going younger just makes too much sense for a multitude of reasons.</div></div>

I fully get and support planning ahead especially with our goaltending. I've been having a conversation with my buddy who loves the leafs but doesn't follow hockey that much and his response when I asked him what the leafs should do with Andersen was keep him the fans need a goalie they can get behind he's the best goalie we've had since Eddy the Eagle. I tried to explain to him Freddy is on a contract year and the ramifications of extending him but he didn't care.

I know Andersen was 25 when we got him but we were rebuilding not competing for a cup or at least in a position to like the FO sold to the fanbase. I agree we need to get younger in net and we shouldn't wait but if we had a succession plan in place where Georgiev or whatever young goalie is brought in and a more experienced goalie to help share the workload and put a goalie in every night that would give the team confidence to play in front of I think it would be an easier sell to people like my buddy.

Im not sold on Jarry continuing his level of play but I did a ACGM trading something like goat, sparks and a 4th and got roasted saying I was giving up too much lol. We need to get younger at some point in time but if Dubas turns the crease over to a young kid he needs to be sure it's his guy.

You're right Lehner will want term but no one gave him term last offseason and with the cap flat I'm not sure anyone will now especially if he wants a raise. My thinking was we offer him a 3 year $15 million deal and I think he would take it that way he's the guy next year the second year is a platoon and the third year he takes a reduced role or is traded to save cap if he's still producing and if not then we look elsewhere.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 jun à 21 h 59