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Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct 2020 à 6 h 16
Sujet:
Prospects I would like to get
I don't see Ottawa or CBJ trading those guys. WSH and Car have some depth on D, so Alexeyev or Bean could be discussed, in exchange for immediate help, plus cap relief.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 21 h 01
Sujet:
Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>But what I said still applies. They literally wouldn't put a claim.</div></div>
It's 2020. Tyler Johnson just cleared waivers. Casey Mittelstadt might clear waivers. But fans who claim this level of insider knowledge about more than one club tend to be engaged in puffery, at best.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 16 h 38
Sujet:
66 to DC swaps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>I like it. Makes sense for both teams. NYI will never play Ho-Sang anyways, might as well get a high risk high reward younger prospect in return.
The only thing I don't like is Sprong not playing. He really should. Would love to see a HoSang-Eller-Sprong line but then that boots Panik out of the lineup which sucks as well.</div></div>
Panik was exactly what the team needed until it signed Panik. If they get distracted by the next shiny thing and don't play Panik, he'll turn into a bad contract. I know early last year it looked like he already did, but he finished really strong, on about a 45 point pace in about the second "half" of last year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 16 h 09
Sujet:
Dvorak
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>Giving up Dumba for a middle-6C seems like way too much, taking back Goligoski makes it worse.
I see no reason for AZ to make this trade. If they want to shed cap they have plenty of other (older and rental) players they could use for that, not a younger guy on a fair contract.</div></div>
Check your calendar, though. Is it still 2020? Are any teams trading for any veterans on average contracts if they're not accompanied by picks? Now do you see the logic of the original post? I think it's brilliant.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 16 h 05
Sujet:
Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>Panik is probably better than Mittelstadt right now.
Here is the deal, on the LW one of Skinner, Hall, Olofsson, or Kahun would be the odd man out if Adams traded for Panik.
Skinner had a terrible year and is definitely better than Panik.
Kahun playing for 3 different teams scores at about 1/2 per game over a short 2 season NHL career.
On the right wing, Cozens WILL be better than Reinhart and Okpose has 93 pts with 38 goals over the last 3 seasons while Panik had only 75 pts and 31 goals.
I do not see him bumping any of them out of the line up either.
He does not fit on the LW nor the RW.
Most importantly his salary will be nearly $2,000,000 more than Mittelstadt.
I think I would keep Mittelstadt with a higher potential than give him up for Panik.
If he PKed, I could possibly see a reason, but as the trade is written I see no reason for Buffalo to take on extra cap this year.</div></div>
In Ari, Panik was on the third unit of the league's best PK. IN WSH, he had a similarly small role on the 6th best PK. He plays either wing, but
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Well you're overvaluing him. Think what you want.</div></div>
I'm not OP. I think Mittelstadt is still a half decent prospect. Next summer if he hasn't show improvement, this could be fair, but give Mittelstadt some time to show he can translate his game to the highest level.
Had you merely posted, "Buffalo is keeping Mittelstadt," I would not have commented.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 6 h 19
Sujet:
Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>He's not a top 6 player. Just because WSH has shoehorned him there doesn't justify his performance at all. 9 goals for 22 points is barely third line production not to mention the upgraded talent in the top 6 that he gets to play with. We're not interested.</div></div>
No. WSH shoehorned him onto their 4th line/press box rotation, where he got 20 points in his last 36 games of last year, a 45 point pace, with a lot of dirty goals down low. I think WSH keeps him to play 2nd line in case of injuries, and keeps him on 3rd line this year for secondary scoring. I just thought your comment was nonsense.
Other guys who got stuck in Todd Reirden's doghouse: Andre Burakovsky, Chandler Stephenson, Travis Boyd. It's almost an honor.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 6 h 13
Sujet:
Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>He had his best season when Jeff Skinner had his worst? it's a lot more than that and basing your argument off one of our worst player last year is not building a strong case for Panik. Skinner had 40 goals the prior season when he was on a competent line. Nobody compares outlier seasons.</div></div>
Panik's been a 2nd line wing, and played at that level again in the 2nd half of last year. Skinner has been a 2nd line wing, too. The Sabres could use another 2nd line wing.
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Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 5 h 57
Sujet:
Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Sabres wouldn't claim Panik off waivers.</div></div>
He had one more even strength point last year than Jeff Skinner, for whatever that's worth.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct 2020 à 5 h 54
Sujet:
What would make Panik available
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kylonetic8</b></div><div>How come you always drop Vrana down to the third line? Are you trying to reduce his value so we get him for cheaper?</div></div>
Galchenyuk has a 30 goal year. So does Athanasiou. You could penalize them for being horrible defensively, or put them and Kuznetsov in when the team needs a goal, and has the puck in the zone, and you'd get a lot of goals. This team easily has two good power play units. Eller, Hathaway, Hagelin, and Dowd are all decent on PK. I think Galchenyuk and Athanasiou replace the secondary scoring ability of Burakovsky and Connolly, but you're not going to sign them by telling them they get to play on a checking line. They've tried that. It doesn't work out for them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct 2020 à 19 h 31
Sujet:
Dvorak
The Coyotes have no RHD signed past this season, but they have a younger center than Dvorak who projects higher, in Hayton. This seems like a decent fit for both sides, to me. Seems pretty fair as posted. Good luck with it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct 2020 à 19 h 25
Sujet:
Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>He might be in the same class as Laf for top rookie next season, he certainly has lots of potential but if the argument is what's going to yield the best immediate results playing with Ovechkin it's Kane right now and that's worth paying a premium for given the circumstances. With an aging Ovechkin, are you willing to trade future wins for wins right now before he inevitably loses a step? I would argue you should.</div></div>
I see a post-Ovechkin top-nine of Vrana Backstrom Wilson, McMichael Kuznetsov Oshie, Protas, Eller, Panik. It might turn out they're still pretty decent.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct 2020 à 19 h 14
Sujet:
New York Rangers Drafted Players Only
CBJ, Ott, Det, and Ari probably accept.
WSH, Car, Van, and Col pass.
MTL is somewhat interested, but only if the cap balances.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct 2020 à 5 h 43
Sujet:
Caps fans is this fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>They'd pay you. His contract isn't good and he's regressing as a player.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>If you offer them a 5th for him they’ll take it</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ihaveajoner</b></div><div>It’s fairs but there are better players for free</div></div>
Panik started slow last year, injured. He finished in the best form of his life. 20 even strength points in 36 games, a 45 point pace, just above his career best season of 44. He also kills penalties pretty well, not that SJ needs any help there.
He started last year slow, and most Caps fans decided he was bad at hockey, so most Caps fans would give him away for free. The better move for WSH is to keep him and play him next year at 2R after Seattle likely takes Oshie.
The reason the above might be fair anyway would be if WSH could somehow magically take the cap space/roster spot created by giving Panik away and sign a UFA project or two with the potential to be more than a 45 point player. I'm not privy to UFA negotiations. Just a fan, but I think a 3rd and a 5th and cap space to give a couple of "prove it" contracts to skill players coming off terrible seasons, who think WSH is the team to get their careers back on track.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct 2020 à 20 h 39
Sujet:
Toews three way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>I missed the random meaningless "see, here is the proof" factoids.</div></div>
Welcome back. We'll all be glad to get more fact-free certainty in the conversation again.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct 2020 à 20 h 38
Sujet:
Potentially Adding Jakub Vrana Next Season
Nylander for Vrana as basically a one for one next summer when Vrana is an unsigned RFA might give WSH cost certainty. I doubt they throw in a 2nd and a 3rd on that, but I think Nylander and Vrana are pretty close.
There are a couple possible reasons WSH might consider a one for one: if Seattle claims Oshie (the highest scoring NHLer ever from Washington State, where Seattle is) and suddenly WSH isn't so deep at RW, if the Caps decide to trade Kuznetsov and want to try Nylander at 2C, and/or if McMichael works well at 2L and the Caps no longer need Vrana there. I think if any two of those things happen, then Vrana for Nylander is a reasonable conversation next summer. This summer, while Vrana's at half the cap hit, forget it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct 2020 à 20 h 31
Sujet:
Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>You know Ovechkin is older than Kane right? Better to have them both now than if/when McMichael reaches that high level and Ovechkin likely has lost a step.</div></div>
I personally think McMichael is within spitting distance of Lafreniere for rookie of the year this year. Nobody's going to bid that high on Kane. One players have any PR issues, their trade value drops precipitiously. See: Kuznetsov, Evgeny.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 19 h 18
Sujet:
Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyFan989</b></div><div>Jets say no, only reason our core is around Laine’s age group.. trade would need to be around younger players</div></div>
Thanks. I agree it's not a rebuilding move. It's a one-for-two of top-six guys, and that means giving up a bit of youth. It's possible that Laine keeps improving and gets better than Ovechkin in a few years, but it's also possible he doesn't. Plenty of guys peak around 23 years old, or so, and then fall off. Some guys stay in shape and stay consistent.
I see it as a rebuilding move for WSH, where they try Eller or McMichael at 2C, and have a competition between Laine and Vrana for the 1L spot with Backstrom, and then try to still make the playoffs. Could see Lowry or even Perreault instead of Copp, if it makes any difference.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 16 h 39
Sujet:
Caps side of laine
WSH doesn't have cap issues this year. Kempny just had surgery and is out for eight months. They're under the cap.
Laine had 7 more even strength points than Vrana this year, but Vrana had a better points/60, so if he gets bigger minutes, he could outscore Laine this year or next year on his own. I don't see the point of the trade.
Over the last five years Orlov is 8th in EVP among LHD. Fehervary is a top prospect developing faster than a couple of first round draft picks. The two of them together make a fair trade for Laine.
So you've got two units of "Laine's trade value" here, plus a 1st round pick, and on the other side, you've got just one Laine. Consider revising?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingLundqvist30</b></div><div>I will say though, a Powerplay of
Ovechkin-Kuznetsov-Laine
Oshie-Carlson
would be absolutely insane. Easily best Powerplay in the NHL.</div></div>
See above. (eta: but what about Backstrom, Wilson, Schultz, McMichael, etc.? Top power plays tend to have two good units, and Backstrom is the key to the Caps' top unit.)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No chance the Jets take 29 year old Orlov back as a main part of the deal.</div></div>
See above. Cheers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 12 h 55
Sujet:
Laine to caps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>That's alot to pay for the right to pay Laine 9 million a year</div></div>
Only???
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 11 h 30
Sujet:
Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Josh</b></div><div>Caps say no.</div></div>
Thanks. What would be added, to make it fair?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 11 h 20
Sujet:
LMK what u think of these lines
I see the logic. If the Rangers want to put three prospects into their top nine, they ahve to end up with a line with two new guys, and that line is likely not as effective as the other two, even if it's got Zibanejad on it, but if it's got Zibanejad, it might be close.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 11 h 12
Sujet:
U steal from us we steal from u
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>Read description</div></div>
I'd suggest an offer of Carl Hagelin for a truce.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 10 h 10
Sujet:
Whats a Kracken
That'd be a very good team. If I had to guess, Seattle will claim the top three Washington-state born players in NHL history, in TJ Oshie, Tyler Johnson, and Derek Ryan. The other active ones, Kaler Yamamoto and Dylan Gambrell, won't be available in the expansion draft. Rittich over Ryan seems likely if Ryan's available, but I think Eller willl be protected and Coleman could wait to sign a deal as a UFA until after the expansion draft to avoid moving again, so Oshie and Johnson seem likely.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 9 h 48
Sujet:
Who says no
What would be added to make it fair, if WSH considers it and Ovechkin considers it? At that point, WSH is rebuilding, so picks/prospects? Harkins, Gawanke, and a 1st? Any one or two of those? I don't know. I obviously thought it was fair when I posted it.
I don't think Ovechkin is going anywhere he doesn't have a shot at the title and the organization's support to play all of the power plays and break Gretzky's goal record. Is WPG's rivalry with EDM enough of an assurance that he can do it?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 oct 2020 à 8 h 41
Sujet:
Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Who do you think? And the answer isn't Winnipeg.</div></div>
Ordinarily, I'd guess Leonsis says no, and MacLellan warns that the team will rebuild in a couple years without something drastic like this. But with potentially no fans in the stands this year, maybe WSH just gets it over with?
Ordinarily I'd guess Ovechkin says no, but if he gets to stick with Kuznetsov and join a contender, who knows?
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