Georgiev and DeAngelo

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Créé par: Trickster

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 31 oct. 2019

Publié: 31 oct. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Slight variation to this trade done by few different people.
Is this enough value to Rangers? Able to upgrade picks if neccessary.

Obviously this move likely means Rangers dont extend Kreider without a significant salary move.

My thoughts for extensions for DeAngelo and Georgiev are :

2 years at 3 million AAV to Deanglo with long term extension to be negotiated later. (Basis is the Pionk signing)

3 years @ 1.25 million AAV to Georgiev (basis is Desmith signing)

This move might allow is to keep Hyman who I feel we need more than Kapanen.

Transactions

TOR

NYR

Bracco, Jeremy
Kapanen, Kasperi
Petan, Nicolas
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	79 864 643 $	0 $	202 500 $	1 635 357 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell 10 893 000 $10 893 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 4	Mikheyev, Ilya 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1	Shore, Nick 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro 694 444 $694 444 $ (70 000 $$70K) AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Deangelo, Anthony 925 000 $925 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Holl, Justin 675 000 $675 000 $ DD UFA - 1		Clarkson, David 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD NTC UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

31 oct. 2019 à 19 h 24

Sign_em_up000000

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Looks good ? just wondering the break down of the trade?

31 oct. 2019 à 19 h 33

Trickster

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Looks good ? just wondering the break down of the trade?

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

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31 oct. 2019 à 19 h 40

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

I think Kapanen is a bit better, and Deangelo isn't the right guy. We don't need another slick skating puck mover, we need a hainsey/muzzin type who can actually play shutdown D, which Deangelo is incapable of (like Rielly and Barrie)

31 oct. 2019 à 19 h 56

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I mean here are the Dmen with a better point rate than Deangelo...and consider the caliber of teams most of those guys are on.

https://i.ibb.co/TWJ0V1y/Screen-Shot-2019-10-31-at-10-46-44-AM.png

How much do you think that's worth?

31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 10

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Quoting: NR1203

DeAngelo would be paired in a 3rd pair role with Dermott on the left which is paired with a shut down defensive defenseman that is what Dermott is Dermy can also skat as well, smart pairing if you ask me, if your looking for that RHD shut down top pair guy it'll cost Nylander and the dman will be in the 6-8 million range

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31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 14

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

That was my thought as well but do you think that's a slight overpay for Georgiev? I haven't watched him much but his numbers look good.

31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 17

Boomer125

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

That was my thought as well but do you think that's a slight overpay for Georgiev? I haven't watched him much but his numbers look good.

Kappys + a pick could probably get both DeAngelo and Georgiev

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31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 19

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make it a 1st and they'd consider

31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 24

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Quoting: Boomer125

That was my thought too, I think Dermott and DeAngelo would be a pair if we traded for him however, I haven't watched him play much do I don't know too much about his game although Trickster says he'd be a great fit.

31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 26

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Quoting: Boomer125

Kappys + a pick could probably get both DeAngelo and Georgiev

Sounds good to me, sign_me_up000000 lol

31 oct. 2019 à 20 h 28

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

Also on here you have him paired with Rielly but do you think DeAngelo and Dermott would make a good pairing next year?

31 oct. 2019 à 21 h 46

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Also on here you have him paired with Rielly but do you think DeAngelo and Dermott would make a good pairing next year?

Could be, would require moving Hyman for cap space and then going super cheap like Fantenberg for 3rd pair or Holl Gain.

At that use the money remaining money for 1st pair D.

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31 oct. 2019 à 21 h 53

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Yo @jamiepo @palhal @blowing_the_zone @random2152

Anything you can thoughts wise? And Random2152 do you have DeAngelo stats you can share?

31 oct. 2019 à 22 h 17

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Quoting: Trickster

Yo @jamiepo @palhal @blowing_the_zone @random2152

Anything you can thoughts wise? And Random2152 do you have DeAngelo stats you can share?

It's really Kapanen for George and Tony. The other pieces don't mean much. Rangers are at the cap too, and they would be taking more on. If DeAngelo is thought to be an NHL competent now and with growth in the future, Rangers don't trade him for 2nd/3rd line RWer. Rangers don't have motivation to give away Georgiev. Trade fill two needs for the Leafs but for Rangers, not so sure.

31 oct. 2019 à 22 h 37

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Quoting: palhal

Ranger fans have said Fox can replace DeAngelo and Shesterkin is ready to make Georgiev expandable.

Like you said their cap situation is bad, especially with Shattenkirk buyout.
They cant pay either guy.

31 oct. 2019 à 23 h 18

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Quoting: Trickster

Can't pay either guy, I'm talking this year. You trading them 3.2m Kapanen and combined DeAngelo and George make 1.6m. and then they still need a 900,00 replacement for George...that;s 2.5m additional cap to the Rangers this year.
Maybe those Rangers fans should realize that team needs 6 or 7 NHL Dmen in the course of the year. Don't understand how Fox replaces DeAngelo. Lots of positions for competent Dmen.
Yeah I understand about Shesterkin but should Rangers just give away George when Lundqvist has less than two year left?

1 nov. 2019 à 2 h 19

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Quoting: Boomer125

I have mentioned before during the summer about how a top pair D (at least someone who can play with Rielly) is needed and the likely guys to move were Marner or Nylander because moving Matthews is just dumb.
Fast forward a few months and after the Marner overpayment, Nylander is the only realistic move Dubas can make to get the kind D help this team badly needs.

After hearing some NYR fans' opinions, I don't know if DeAngelo is the right guy for this defense.

1 nov. 2019 à 12 h 21

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As a Ranger fan I look at Georgiev and DeAngelo as guys they can trade (because of Shesterkin and Fox) but dont have to unless they get what they need. So while trading them for Kapanen, Bracco and a third round pick isn't bad, I'd still look around a bit before pulling the trigger. Trading DeAngelo is a risk because there are times he looks absolutely fantastic.

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1 nov. 2019 à 18 h 13

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Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York

make it a 1st and they'd consider

I dont think the rangers would do it. Kapanen is a good player that they'd like, but DeAngelo is going to get paid like 40-50 point dman (not sure he is that but thats the rate he'll get in the off season if he keeps his play up). So we are talking 5-6 mm per year for 5 years this off season. If the rangers have shown anything its that they can develop quality Goalies lately, so I think a 23 year old goalie is getting more in return then people think. It's hard to find young cheap goalies. And the rangers dont have to trade him.

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