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St. Louis Blues signed Oskar Sundqvist (4 Years / $2,750,000 AAV)

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21 jui 2019 à 19 h 14
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Oskar Sundqvist has signed a new contract with the St. Louis Blues.
CONTRAT STANDARD
COMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 4 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis
VALEUR: 11 000 000 $
% DU C.H. : 3,37
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 21 juillet 2019
SOURCE: @CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2019-202 750 000 $2 750 000 $0 $0 $2 250 000 $2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
2020-212 750 000 $2 750 000 $0 $0 $2 250 000 $2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
2021-222 750 000 $2 750 000 $0 $0 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
2022-232 750 000 $2 750 000 $0 $0 $3 000 000 $3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
TOTAL11 000 000 $11 000 000 $0 $0 $11 000 000 $11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
21 jui 2019 à 19 h 25
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AwesomeMatthews
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I personally think he's worth less than this
21 jui 2019 à 19 h 40
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decent if he stays around the 30 point plateau. don't think the term is that great.
21 jui 2019 à 19 h 55
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
I personally think he's worth less than this


No this is a steal. So thinking about how people wanted him 2.75M for 2 Years. That's what the idea was, but getting him for 4 years is actually such a steal for an important role player.
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21 jui 2019 à 20 h 21
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Even if last year was a fluke in terms of point production, this is a pretty good deal. Solid bottom six forward. Looking at other contracts being handed out this is pretty reasonable.
Rom a aimé ceci.
21 jui 2019 à 20 h 23
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I love Sundqvist 's game.
Good signing.
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21 jui 2019 à 20 h 26
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
No this is a steal. So thinking about how people wanted him 2.75M for 2 Years. That's what the idea was, but getting him for 4 years is actually such a steal for an important role player.


Agreed.
I thought he'd get more because that's generally what happens when players win the big prize in their sport.
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21 jui 2019 à 20 h 40
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Good term and AAV. If he's a smart player, which it seems is the case, he'll put up 15+ goals a season and serve as an important role player. Can't ask for much more from bottom 6.
21 jui 2019 à 21 h 21
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
I personally think he's worth less than this


There's clearly a Stanley Cup reward built into this deal. Had STL not won, I think his AAV would've been about $1M less. But look at a guy like Beagle: he was def. rewarded for winning the Cup despite playing a minor role.
21 jui 2019 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: Brian2016
There's clearly a Stanley Cup reward built into this deal. Had STL not won, I think his AAV would've been about $1M less. But look at a guy like Beagle: he was def. rewarded for winning the Cup despite playing a minor role.


It's actually in the CBA that any free agent who just won the cup automatically gets an extra $500,000 per year on any deal that they sign. One of the few areas where the NHLPA actually won during negotiations in the last lock out.
21 jui 2019 à 22 h 57
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$2,750,000 for a 4th or "5th" liner. Yikes.
22 jui 2019 à 0 h 10
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A 4y term is a big investment in someone who has less than 2 season-equivalencies of games under his belt.

Also the discrepancy between the first 70 games (2-7-9) and this past season’s 74 games (14-17-31) does make one wonder if this past season’s contributions are repeatable.

The organization obviously feels that it is repeatable and that, by signing him long-term now, not only do they lock him up as part of the Cup-winning core, but they feel they are going to save money over time.

So does he have sustainable 3rd line upside who will routinely score 12-16 goals with 30-40 points? Or is he a Quad-A tweeter who got lucky last year? If it’s the former than this contract is great. If it’s the latter then, well, he’s the next Beleskey.

I wouldn’t have offered this deal - there just isn’t enough data to warrant the risk in a tight cap offseason. But it’s a deal that can have definite upside nonetheless.
22 jui 2019 à 0 h 55
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I am the first person to say.. Steal!
22 jui 2019 à 1 h 44
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another Swede got fleeced.....should be two years

As a one myself im coming to conclusion those kids going NHL have some inferior issues or bad agents.....
22 jui 2019 à 3 h 35
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A great deal for Oskar and the team overpaid a bit but worth it.
22 jui 2019 à 7 h 12
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
It's actually in the CBA that any free agent who just won the cup automatically gets an extra $500,000 per year on any deal that they sign. One of the few areas where the NHLPA actually won during negotiations in the last lock out.


Did you just made this up ?
22 jui 2019 à 7 h 27
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
Did you just made this up ?


No. It's in there.
 
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