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Forum: Armchair-GM23 oct à 17 h 04
Sujet: Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Feed their stats into this little machine, and McMichael is currently more productive relative to league difficulty: <a href="" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"></a>

You're right that age means Lafreniere has a higher ceiling. Where you make a quality of teammates argument about Lafreniere in juniors and then ignore that he played top line and PP1 with NHLer Barrett Hayton at Worlds, you kinda lost me.

edit: they're just under nine months apart in age, though. That's beyond debate.</div></div>

Yes, Lafreniere did have better linemates at the WJC but he was on that line above McMichael because the coaches trusted him (a younger player) more. As for translation rates across leagues, I don't trust them at all. I've experimented with way too many variations of NHLe and other translation factors because the estimations are substantially off from player to player. Some players translate better while others play a very different game when placed on a lower spot in the depth chart. The amount of high level prospects from junior leagues who have gone to the AHL and not been able to maintain their high scoring rates is incredible but not surprising. What's more important in my opinion is the percentage of prospects coming from junior leagues who maintain their production. The second edition of Stat Shot by Rob Vollman does a better job than me of explaining the importance of age in translation factors from junior leagues.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 oct à 15 h 30
Sujet: Kane
Forum: NHL Signings20 oct à 15 h 16
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Norm31</b></div><div>well if thats the case I would take Mercer. Lapierre is too much risk, Schneider is a lot like Guhle in terms of ceiling (gauranteed NHLer at best 2nd pair.) This shows how stupid Bergevin and the scouts are. I don't know what they see in Guhle but I doubt he is ever gonna be worth it</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Norm31</b></div><div>bro are you stupid? Gunler, Reichel and Preeault can be top 6/1st line forwards but Guhle is a gauranteed NHLer who will be at best a 2nd pair dman. Gunler, Reichel and Pereault would maybe be reaches but why not trade down? Guhle shouldn't have been taken in the 1st round. He is scared of the puck and makes bad decisions with the puck, he is a liability offensively. The only good thing about him is his size which is madly overvalued and he is good at defence. Guhle was one of the worst picks in the 1st round.</div></div>

Don't hate on Bergevin and his staff especially not when it comes to drafting. Sure Kotkaniemi was a reach at 3 in 2018 but he was the best center available. They've done very well at drafted players who fit the team mold while continuing to get nice steals. I'll admit I definitely had my doubts about Guhle but if the Canadiens chose to draft him at 16th knowing that another team would pick him if they traded down, other teams see something in him too. I don't think he was one of the worst picks of the 1st round by a good bit, Chinakhov, Mukhamadullin, Wiessblatt, and Grieg definitely go below him. The Canadiens saw in the playoffs this year that they can't rely 100% on Carey Price. Every Canadiens fan knows this. The only solution is to get defensively reliable defensemen. Weber and Chiarot were the only reliable defensemen and they had to play 20+ minutes a night. Getting a defenseman like Guhle fills a big whole despite what you may think.