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MitchJr

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Forum: Fauteuil - DGdim. à 8 h 46
Sujet: 2nd line
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Zegras isn't a core peice to the Ducks, if he was there wouldn't be a counter proposal at all. Look at the Leafs, they aren't moving Mathews or Nylander for anything, Florida isn't moving Barkov or Tkachuk for anything. Core peices are those you would absolutely not move.

Edit*** Do I think the offer is weak? Of course it is but that is not what you said, hence my response.

Also I do not think the Habs will do any of Guhle or Reinbacher for Zegras unless they also get back the 3rd pick (where we include the 5th pick and an additional piece or two) since we would need to pick one of the top D men in this draft as a replacement.

Something like

3rd + Zegras for Reinbacher + 5th + Mesar + Jets 1st</div></div>

Before cap friendly ends, just wanted to reach out &amp; let you know take my prize for the biggest fk’n moron on this site. Spew garbage &amp; illogical takes yet report people when they push back on your nonsense. A truly moronic, idiotic snowflake. congratulations 🫡
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 21 h 46
Sujet: Mitchie love
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>40 goals vs 26 goals are those stats? More accurately data points are what I shared.

Dom's model doesn't have a 3 yrs running total. And even so the previous two seasons Boeser dealt with injuries and personal issues. Previous to that and last yr he's been a good player. And multi time all star in his own right.

I never even suggested Boeser was better than Marner I am just saying their trade values are similar due to their respective caps hits being so different.

If I'm a W and it's true I do tend to win these discussion you are an L.</div></div>

You’ve won nothing but biggest W ⚓️ award, what a champ 😂. I gave you the 3 year cumulative stats:
Marner 0.31 goals &amp; 1.27 points per game; Boeser averaged 0.33 &amp; 0.77. And the guy with significantly greater production just happens to be elite defensively to boot.
Boeser can have a down year for ‘personal’ reasons &amp; injuries but Marner can’t? Most knowledgeable observers understood he was still recovering from injury during playoffs. That’s why actual GMs look at larger sample size .
They are nowhere close to being equal; preposterous trade proposal and if you can’t see it, I’m not surprised based on this exchange; 🔨 head
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 20 h 55
Sujet: Mitchie love
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>I love it. You were upset with what you thought was just my opinion when you had offered counting stats as your hard evidence. As soon as I show you some stats you have a meltdown. Too good.

Don't get too upset. It's just debate brother. No need to call names it only makes you're argument look weak. Difficult as that might seem.</div></div>

What stats did you show 😂? You showed a model that some dude created to calculate a player’s value. The model is based on data (yes) but the algorithm is not; that’s why different models yield different results. I never questioned the data - I simply suggested you expand beyond one year, which you didn’t.
We both know Marner is consistently &gt;&gt;&gt;Boesser; to suggest otherwise is ignorant and preposterous but you do you.
No one is upset - I like branding people with the names they deserve, and you sir are a W ⚓️
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 18 h 31
Sujet: Mitchie love
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>If you think just listing counting stats is a great representation of value then Ill just show you Boeser's 40 goals this yr compared to Marner's 26. In reality there is a lot more to consider when determining a player's value. One of the most important, and often overlooked on this site is the players cap hit. In this case Marner is an excellent player but he's a little overpaid. Dom's model will back up my assessment on that as well. Think of John Tavares, he's not a bad player but he happens to make way too much money so his trade value is probably basically nothing. Even though he's a good player.

And then when you think of what for instance someone like Zadorov did in the playoffs to enhance his value, Marner has kinda has done the opposite. Not at all saying it's doom and gloom and he's a total bum, there is a lot of room for nuance here but even most homer Toronto fans have a pretty healthy dose of concern surrounding Marner the player and the personality. He has bit of diva in him.

Marner's value in the real world is unquestionable? What is that value in a trade then? Cause if you think it's Boeser ++ type of thing I think Toronto would have already done that.

Marner in Dom's model is a +13 offense, +2 defense surplus value of contract -1.3 mil. Boeser is +10 offense, +2 defense, contract surplus value 2.1 mil. There is some data for you to chew on.</div></div>

Why not look at Don’s model over past 3 years; lots of players can have a fluky good year but hard to do so over 3 years. Sure you’ll find the gap between the two will be even larger.
Spare me innuendo about Marner’s attitude; none of us are in the room. I’m a Leafs fan and I have zero concern. The fact is the whole team underperforms in the playoffs , Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, Reilly, etc - unfair to pin it on one guy when team scores 12 goals in 7 games and goes 1/21 on PP.
Marner’s value is &gt;&gt; Boeser’s; SUCK on that you dumba$$
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 15 h 30
Sujet: Mitchie love
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>I know as a Toronto guy you are going to try and view your player in the best possible light and most fans of other teams will view him in the worst possible so you end up getting defensive about who he is. I am not all negative on the guy by any means but it's a lie to say his playoff performances haven't been concerning and counting stats while not terrible, aren't great either but most importantly don't tell the whole story.

That gives you an idea of what his value is on the trade market if you think all the offers are garbage.</div></div>

Your logic escapes me 🤨; stats don’t matter but your opinion does?
And just to be clear cap friendly does not represent what actual GMs in the nhl think - you know that, right?
I don’t particularly care what a bunch oh homer hacks on this site think. Some of the dumbest hockey takes I have ever seen have been on this site ; present company included.
Marner’s value in the real world is unquestionable- he’s a top 5 winger, top 20-25 player in the league in his prime, and elite at both ends.
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 2 h 38
Sujet: Biggest Winners and Losers of the draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>The habs did really good, there is nothing to knock. They got lucky other people drafted stupid.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>Someone's mad

Habs got the 2nd best player in the draft by far. Go let out your frustration elsewhere if you can't handle this little ****</div></div>

Everyone is going to miss cap friendly but no one will miss beauts like you. Opine about nhl players all you want - everyone can watch them play night on night - but spare me your expertise on prospects. We’ll judge them 3-5 years from now; everything you’ve said today is utter bullsh$t. I doubt you’ve seen Any of these prospects play live; reading blogs doesn’t make you a scout - what a couple of prize W ⚓️ s 💪