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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs30 nov. 2023 à 12 h 23
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>They do have enough to make the 2 moves needed but they got to be careful not to overpay

Lybushkin at 50% ret should cost a 3rd

Hanafin 1st + 3rd and pick the prospect/s (Hirvonen and Abruzzese) should be fine to make up for not having a 2nd.

Like last year a lot of guys who were expensive came with term or were packaged with another good player

Gavrikov + Korpisalo

Orlov + Hathaway


Rn Leafs have their 2024 1st and 3rd and their 2025 3rd thats all that is needed rn. From there it will be prospects and potentially Timmins used

Now there will be guys who are safe but guys like Hirvonen, Grebyonkin, Niemela, etc all could be fair game</div></div>

I don't think this team is an add or two before being pushed over through top.
That's when that type of move is warranted.

At most we should do is cost effective add, anything else seems silly.


Adding a Hanifin or Tanev will not be cheap, and they are pending UFAs... just seems that we are gonna pay high price to only move the needle a bit.
Forum: Chicago Blackhawks6 nov. 2023 à 19 h 35
Sujet: The owners should be forced out of the league
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Not my problem if you can't comprehend what I say and need a scapegoat to give you an excuse to remain ignorant to systemic and culture issues. It's obvious that your knowledge of the entire situation is very surface level.

I think you are the one that should be embarrassed for thinking that dismantling an original six team with an enormous fan base in one of the largest markets in the league, is the answer. Or, that an organization that has essentially had a complete turnover from the regime that was in place when any of this happened, and financed the investigation themselves, and released those findings publicly knowing how damning they were, is "rotten to the core."</div></div>

You should say that to the victims and see how that flies.

There should be no limit for the Black Hawks to continue to apologize and pay for this, none whatsoever.
Anything else is unacceptable on a human level.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs1 nov. 2023 à 12 h 21
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion - The Treleafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>It's a bit worrying how bad most of Trev's moves look so far.

-Kampf is our Jay Beagle
-Reaves isn't an NHL calibre player
-Klingberg is a 3rd pair Dman who gives up chances 3rd pair guys dont have the leeway to give up
- I like Domi so I give him a pass but he hasn't looked particularly great, certainly not forcing decisions or pushing anyone

I think Bert has been better than his stat line at least.

Just brutal</div></div>

I said it from the start.

We overpaid for Kampf.
Reaves is not an NHL player anymore
Klingberg is not going to help and is terrible, Timmins all day over him.

I am concerned now that is Klingberg even tradeable wit his cap hit, gonna have to add sweetners.

I wonder how Soucy could have fit.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs18 oct. 2023 à 12 h 31
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion - The Treleafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Klingbergs deal is tradeable but the issue then becomes okay so whose gonna provide offense on the back end besides Rielly

When its 6 on 5 or PP he looks good

5 on 5 especially where they had him playing (2nd pair with McCabe) is just no

I think in a third pair role against lesser competition he should do fine with Gio. Now if we can get someone to play with Rielly and Liligren works with McCabe I would like to than shift Brodie to the left to play with him as that might be for the best.

So rn this is the mindset

Rielly-?
McCabe-Liligren
Brodie-Klingberg
Gio</div></div>

Our issue on the back end is not offense right now.

It was bad signing.
Looks bad, plays bad, yeah only 3 games in I know.

Just was not fan of that move and want to move on ASAP
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs27 sept. 2023 à 16 h 32
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion - The Treleafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>The thing is nobody ever expected him to be good at defense. He was brought in to create more offense on the blue line and to help with puck transition

As lets be honest do all goals need to come from forwards no

If we look at Toronto's Blue line production reg season last season (not including players who were traded out)

Liligren 6 goals
Reilly 4 goals
Giordano 4 goals
Brodie 2 goals
Timmins 2 goals
Holl 2 goals
McCabe 1 goal
Schenn 1 goal

Now lets compare to a top blue line like Carolina

Burns 18 goals
Skeji 18 goals
Slavin 7 goals
Chatfield 6 goals
Pesce 5 goals
Ghost 3 goals
De-Haan 2 goals


As for Klingberg he had 10 goals.

Would be nice to have some production on the back end and not just from the core 4 or forwards in general. We have enough defensive only guys to pair with him so as long as we use him properly got no worries. 1 year deal and if it works out like Barrie in EDM should have some good firepower to work with.


Now do I think Leafs still need to add one more Dman yes but its not in the purpose of pushing Klingberg out. Basically a main reason I want Bear as with him you can have Brodie-Klingberg become a third pair and it should work nicely

Rielly-Bear
McCabe-Liligren
Brodie-Klingberg</div></div>

I'm hoping we are flipping Klingberg for a D with term at deadline to be honest.