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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures
Sujet: Marner to Utah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Let's also talk about the leafs imaginary #1 d-man who is a #3 on any real contender. 11yrs Rielly has had a chance to develop a slapshot and one-timer. He is useless as a point threat on the PP, doesn't PK, can't clear the front of the net, never stands up at the blueline to make a big hit or a hit at all. Any mid-level offensive d-man that can make an outlet pass could put up similar numbers at half the cost as Rielly.</div></div>

A bit scary to think that 5 pretty non physical players who specialize in offense and are collectively average at all other facets (and have continually fizzled in the playoffs the last 5-6 yrs, even though its costing them almost 15mil over the cap to do so this year) might gobble up 55mil of the 88mil cap on a team with 4 expiring UFA starting defensemen, 11 of the other 20 current roster players expire, possess just 4 picks in the first 4 rounds of the next 3 drafts and just one (injury prone) goaltender.

I dont think they can continue down this path, but also I dont think moving Marner alone fixes all the ills that this team has.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures
Sujet: Marner to Utah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WN88</b></div><div>This is some next-level brainwashing. We're in a world where people actually think Marner can't return a 50-point winger and a 1B goalie, simply because he's on a 1-year deal, lol.</div></div>

Maybe its a stretch but Macelli at 23 yrs old has 106 pts in 146 games last 2 yrs on a bad team, with bad offense, so just a 50 pt winger is a bit of a put down, and Ingram is a 1B goalie and a 2nd seems a bit much, and certainly a one dimensional play making winger probably looking at a 13+mil re-sign is a not an easy pill to swallow for most clubs without them throwing in a cap dump/expensive player.

It does hurt Marner's value to be an expiring UFA especially at that cap hit, in addition to the general leaf fan consensus that other than pts marner delivers nothing else.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 4 heures
Sujet: Marner to Utah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Weak season where he put up 101 point pace?</div></div>

Weak season: If all you want is offense then exhibit A is the Leafs/Marner in the playoffs. If all you want is pts, he did not have a weak season.

Weak season in which he did offensively produce, but all leaf fans are looking to trade him for every other aspect of his game. As an expiring 11mil UFA, probably getting 13+ on his next contract, I'd want something more than just a 101 pt pace on an offensive powerhouse team with 2 other players who can put those pts up.

Is he the weakest link? No. But according to most, he is in one single player everything that is wrong with the Leafs.

He is a great offensive player, and IMO directly responsible for Matthews great offensive year, but most see him as the fall guy and that Matthews can do no wrong. He could work well on other clubs, and IMO, Leafs have a defensive issue, then a coaching issue, with some self serving entities, not marner alone as the culprit. But if pts is all that matters and the same disappointing result and mental "fragility" dont bother you then sure, hes/the team had a great year
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 4 heures
Sujet: grebyonkin 10g 15a 25p
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Leafs probably decline the predators deal.
IMO
All things considered, I don’t think the leafs need a Saros level of goalie, if we had a functioning Dcore. Woll is pretty good all things considered, and the leafs have two
B+ goalie prospects that will probably be up in the next 1-2 years</div></div>

The only thing consistent about Woll in his professional career is injuries. Hes fine as a backup and between he and Hildeby one might be a good/reliable backup. But leafs have shown year in/out that a regular season offensive powerhouse gets nowhere in the playoffs.

Goalie and defense HAVE to be addressed. Changing coaches and president aren;t the fix (although both should be done as well).
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures
Sujet: Reunite Marner and Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>If 69 games and 85 points is Marner's worst season, then I am scared to see when he is on fire, with the flames, pun intended.
Marner needs to play away from home, needs a mental reset, and a fresh start.

Liljegren, is a good player, but the Maple Leafs keep switching his D-pair around, like a merry-go-round and moving him up and down the lineup. How is this man suppose to settle in with so much instability? (And he does not fit as well into Toronto's d-scheme, compared to the player's management think they want, eg. very physical.) Over the last three seasons Liljegren has played 183 games, playing less due to being a healthy scratch. During those 183 games he has 64 points, a 0.35ppg average for a defensemen. Much better than Rasmus Sandin (an LD), who fetched a first, and afterwards signed for 5 years at 4.6m.
Which RD comes into the league and has played 7 pro seasons by the time he is 25? No one. Most defenseman start in the NHL after playing 2-3 years in the minors or overseas. Liljegren has 3 "full" (60 game) seasons under his belt. Give him a break, and blame the coaching staff for this mess. Expecting players to succeed with so little patience, is a hallmark for continuous first round exits.

If the Leafs lose later today, the first thing they need to do is fire Sheldon Keefe, (and break up the core four). I believe Marner is the odd man out.</div></div>

Maybe, but I dont think you're selling high on either player.

And Marner who's production wasn;t down, we know with the leafs regular season offensive production is over rated, its his overall game/importance. Marner's value is hurt by the fact that he is small, one dimensional, non physical, and seems mentally fragile/selfish/? (main reasons Toronto fans want rid of him), but also to the fact that hes probably a 13+mil re-sign as a player making winger, and similar to Gaudreau (who was a UFA) might not have his one asset (offensive production) on a lesser team that isnt a regular season offensive powerhouse.

As far as Liljegren, its partly Toronto's system, but he hasn;t shown the offensive upside or physical upside to be a top 4. Toronto over just the past 2 years has brought in a combo of defensive and offensive guys, some getting far more minutes (and some not a healthy scratch) in McCabe, Schenn, Gustaffsson, Klingberg, Benoit, Edmundsen, Lyubushkin. Liljegren will be going into his EIGHTH pro season in North America with less than 200 NHL games. If he cant be a top 4 in toronto, with their defensive turnover and need, theres not a ton of teams he could be. I just dont see a higher upside than we've seen and he'd have to be partnered with the right player. I just don;t see him getting what Sandin got (and even that looked like an end of the round 1st), maybe a late 2nd, because Sandin got that return based on less information. Liljegren's stock in the past 2 years is going lower, not higher.

I just dont see anyone giving equal or better value in trade for these two right now, but then you're never going to get a "marner" for a "marner" but you might get multiple pieces which are better for the team or make the team better.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 avr. à 10 h 43
Sujet: Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>They have a good amount of young players but they still lack the high end potential which is the issue. They probably aren't making the playoffs in this conference next year, so it's better to just try to get a high pick to get those high potential players, since Michkov probably won't be here for 2 years.</div></div>

Very true, but its not a foregone conclusion that NJD/PIT/WAS/DET/OTT/etc... sort it out and surpass them next yr. They lack high end talent, but foertser, brink, frost, cates, farabee, york, drysdale, errsson, etc, didnt have HUGE years.... could get better. And andrae, tuomaala, barkey, etc... could contribute.

Ultimately the Flyers were 3rd in Metro all yr long even with Hart/Gautheir dramas and injuries, so its a leap to think that those other teams develop/cure their ills and PHI doesn;t.

Besides signing a Stephenson/Dumba at 29 yrs old for less than 5mil and still have 5-8mil in cap space and alot of extra high picks in the next few drafts (as well as expiring cap cows in Petersen/Atkinson) allows some creativity. Maybe PHI doesn;t address 1C this yr, but waits out for Draisatl or another big option.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 avr. à 10 h 15
Sujet: Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>This is the opposite what they should be doing IMO. Currently they have no solution to getting a 1C and they are going to be in an extremely competitive conference with NJ, Buffalo and Red Wings all being teams that missed and will be looking to get into the playoffs.</div></div>

Mostly true, but Phily (who lost 2 of their top 4 dmen and their starting goalie) still came within a pt or 2 of the playoffs themselves with largely a team of young guys. While they lack a 1C or a Crosby/Makar in the immediate future, they have a deep pool of young/young-ish guys so counting on NJ or DET or BUF surpassing them isn;t a forgone conclusion.

Adding a good second tier center or defender who has 2-5 good years left is both within their cap and their rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 mars à 9 h 36
Sujet: Leafs finally have a real GM
Ummmm, you're forgetting that he:

Klingberg - 4.2mil ridiculous
Bertuzzi - overpaid
Reaves - overpaid
Kampf - overpaid
Samsonov - inconsistent

then like his predecessor had to go out at TDL and acquire 2 starting dmen (giving props for addressing a problem they've had all year?)
Still 3rd in own division and defense/goaltending still looking shaky
Still capped out

Just seems like you're giving props for really same result (Dont get me wrong Dubas was bad), but I dont really see a better team this year

And regardless of 23-24 results, you're really rolling out the same flawed team, maybe worse?
And you really think a TDL acquisition at 31 yrs old, a expiring UFA making 3.75mil really stays in TOR for 3 yrs at 1.5mil? Or that an 18 skater team is a step forward? Or Holmberg not just becomes a fulltime NHLer at 24-25 yrs old, but is a quality 3rd liner?
Forum: Armchair-GM27 mars à 4 h 29
Sujet: Whats it worth to you
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>Skinner is classically/historically inconsistent. His point totals fluctuate wildly. It’s tough to say if he’s aging and slowing down or if this is just one of his down seasons and we see the return of the 30 goal/60 point player next year.</div></div>

Very true, but for 60 pts you shouldn;t be looking at a 9mil cap hit, thats why I dont think he has value ALONE. You'd have to take a cap dump or add something or value for someone to take that, and ultimately theres players with higher upsides or youth not getting in there.

The fact that Mittelstadt was a agonizing decision to trade a 60+ pt player 24 yr old partly due to cap issues is a direct correlation to Skinner getting 9mil. No problem with the Byram swap, but what happens if Quinn and JJP put up a ppg in a contract year and both want a 5mil+ contract, will Sabres have to consider moving one of them because they dont have the money/cap?