Well well well. If this isn't the Toews deal everybody (who can look at comparables) knew he would get.
Glad I can stop aguing with people trading for him with ridiculous offers because "Vancouver can't afford him". Canuks finally built a decent Dcore, they were not to take it appart after only one season duh.
Now They will probably resign Myers for 3M AAV. I pray they move on instead of keeping that meathead.
Decent D-core? Literally who?? They have Hughes and that's it. Hronek is a second pair d-man who can't be seprated from Hughes or his value drops from a cliff.
[url=/players/filip-hronek]Filip Hronek[/url] has signed a new contract with the Vancouver Canucks.
This is such a bad contract. He piled un the points playing with Hughes and is actually terrible defensively. Reason he was moved out of Detroit. Wow this is bad.
Decent D-core? Literally who?? They have Hughes and that's it. Hronek is a second pair d-man who can't be seprated from Hughes or his value drops from a cliff.
Literally added Hronek, Soucy, Cole and Zadorov.
I would invite you to search the literal meaning of the word "decent". I didn't even go as far as "good", so maybe you could tone down the outrage a bit.
They won the Pacific, a playoffs round and lost in 7 against a SC finalist. That's not bad and they didn't do that with Hugues only.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a sign and trade? An 8-year deal with no nonmovement protections for this first year screams draft day trade to me.
Decent D-core? Literally who?? They have Hughes and that's it. Hronek is a second pair d-man who can't be seprated from Hughes or his value drops from a cliff.
You’re completely ignoring Hronek’s play his last 2 years in Detroit
Zadorov, Soucy, and Cole were all acquisitions that played well for us last season. Myers also had his best season in Vancouver. The Canucks defense played great all season long
Am I the only one who thinks this is a sign and trade? An 8-year deal with no nonmovement protections for this first year screams draft day trade to me.
Nope. He has no trade protections because that's the rules with the CBA. Players can't have trade protection until they are UFA eligible.
i was hoping for about 1million less per year, and a year shorter..but not a big deal. They need somebody on the rightside besides Juulsen- and although there are lots of RD UFAs this year- theyre all 2nd or 3rd pairing dmen.
I would invite you to search the literal meaning of the word "decent". I didn't even go as far as "good", so maybe you could tone down the outrage a bit.
They won the Pacific, a playoffs round and lost in 7 against a SC finalist. That's not bad and they didn't do that with Hugues only.
Soucy and Cole and not part of a d core in any NHL team hahahahaha what are you smoking?? Cole is horrendous and Soucy can't defend at all
You’re completely ignoring Hronek’s play his last 2 years in Detroit
Zadorov, Soucy, and Cole were all acquisitions that played well for us last season. Myers also had his best season in Vancouver. The Canucks defense played great all season long
Oh my. You need to check some numbers before you call that D-core a core. They're a liability and their errors literally cost them games
Oh my. You need to check some numbers before you call that D-core a core. They're a liability and their errors literally cost them games
Here are some numbers
•The Canucks were 5th in goals allowed per game
•6th in shots allowed per game
•8th in xGA
•6th in 5v5 xGA
•6th in xGA/60 in the playoffs
•4th in 5v5 xGA/60 in the playoffs
•Soucy and Cole both ranked in the top 25 in xGA/60 among all defensemen in the NHL this season. Top 15 if you only include dmen who played 500+ minutes at 5v5
The defense played great this season. Maybe you should check some numbers before making things up
Soucy and Cole and not part of a d core in any NHL team hahahahaha what are you smoking?? Cole is horrendous and Soucy can't defend at all
Soucy and Cole were both top 15 among dmen with 500+ minutes in xGA/60. If you wanna talk about defensemen who can’t defend then we can talk about the Capitals d core
Soucy and Cole were both top 15 among dmen with 500+ minutes in xGA/60. If you wanna talk about defensemen who can’t defend then we can talk about the Capitals d core
You think I care about how good the Caps are now? Lmao, I'm not a fan boy who can't take criticism. Caps are absolutely terrible. I don't care, Leonard, Lapierre and McMichael are coming soon so it's an end of an era in Washington. And they won the cup btw, something Nucks haven't done and will never do with this "d-core".
Soucy and Cole were both top 15 among dmen with 500+ minutes in xGA/60. If you wanna talk about defensemen who can’t defend then we can talk about the Capitals d core
And yes Soucy and Cole did very well... Against the opponents, 3th and 4th lines. They got absolutely smoked against 1st and 2nd lines and got exposed out of position multiple times in the playoffs. They're weak and easy to exploit.
And yes Soucy and Cole did very well... Against the opponents, 3th and 4th lines. They got absolutely smoked against 1st and 2nd lines and got exposed out of position multiple times in the playoffs. They're weak and easy to exploit.
Cole had the 3rd best xGA/60 among dmen with 100+ minutes in the playoffs (6th among all dmen)
You haven’t used anything to back up your argument apart from an opinion. Why don’t you check numbers before spewing nonsense
You think I care about how good the Caps are now? Lmao, I'm not a fan boy who can't take criticism. Caps are absolutely terrible. I don't care, Leonard, Lapierre and McMichael are coming soon so it's an end of an era in Washington. And they won the cup btw, something Nucks haven't done and will never do with this "d-core".
If Lapierre and McMichael are the second and third names leading that new era be prepared for an era of being a bottom feeder…
Cole had the 3rd best xGA/60 among dmen with 100+ minutes in the playoffs (6th among all dmen)
You haven’t used anything to back up your argument apart from an opinion. Why don’t you check numbers before spewing nonsense
How so? You aren't paying attention to the level of competition he's against most of the time. He fared well playing around 12 minutes a game and against 3rd and 4th lines. He didn't fare well against anything else. So he's not a major part of any d-core, he's replacement level player. Someone who can be scrached for an AHL lvl player.
How so? You aren't paying attention to the level of competition he's against most of the time. He fared well playing around 12 minutes a game and against 3rd and 4th lines. He didn't fare well against anything else. So he's not a major part of any d-core, he's replacement level player. Someone who can be scrached for an AHL lvl player.
Once again, you aren’t backing that up with stats. Cole was an above average #4/5 dman all year long
Soucy (who you said couldn’t defend) was used in a matchup role alongside Myers against McDavid in round 2. McDavid had 3 pointless games and 2 games with only 1 point. Pretty good results against the best player in the world
Once again, you aren’t backing that up with stats. Cole was an above average #4/5 dman all year long
Soucy (who you said couldn’t defend) was used in a matchup role alongside Myers against McDavid in round 2. McDavid had 3 pointless games and 2 games with only 1 point. Pretty good results against the best player in the world
Because you are pulling your numbers out of your ass! Look at Soucy's numbers from evolving hockey, he's terrible lmao 🤣
Those two aren’t a major part of any forward core, they’re replacement level players. Guys who can be scratched for AHL level players
I don't care what you think of two young players 🤣 I'm not a "fan" cheering die hardly for a team and making excuses why they lost. Nucks have 0 cups won because they always end up making dumb deals such as this Hronek one and that's the bottom line.