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Créé par: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2024

Publié: 18 juin 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Not going into speculation about who'll they'll pick at 5th overall.. Too many changes since the combine.

Just looking at the current scenario for Move they could do, and the only assets that could be moved for those players or picks.

Don't see this as a "This is what is going to happen" but more of a "If this move happens, is this the best they can provide the other team" situation.

I see the following list as players HABS won't move unless they get a real 80+Pts scorer under 27 years old or something that will be of an high overpay for these guys:
Nikc Suzuki
Cole Caufield
Juraj Slafkovsky
Kirby Dach
Michael Matheson
Kaiden Guhle
Lane Hutson
Oliver Kapanen
Owen Beck
David Reinbacher
Adam Engström
Logan Mailloux
Jakub Dobes

With the UFA add-ons, I still have 26.7M$ next year to sign our RFAs, and haven't sacrificed the future.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Biondi, Blake		3	950 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Barron, Justin	2	1 000 000 $
Xhekaj, Arber	3	1 750 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	2	1 500 000 $
Necas, Martin	8	7 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Reinhart, Sam		7	11 500 000 $
Stamkos, Steven		2	6 500 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (OTT)

Détails additionnels:

3rd round pick for Dvorak without retention

CHI

Dvorak, Christian

Détails additionnels:

CHI fans, before you go nuts on this, hear me out. Seems like your team want to help develop Bedard, Dvorak has the track record of being a solid player able to help younger guys. He's only a 1 year contract which, if it pans out can be signed again for considerably less and play on the 3rd or 4th, or again, retain 50% at TDL and deal him for a prospect or a pick (could be a 3rd or even 2nd if he plays well this year).

MTL

Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
Suzuki, Ryan

Détails additionnels:

CAR trade out Necas, add Suzuki as a prospect for HABS and bring in Nick's brother to develop in Laval.

CAR

Armia, Joel
Barron, Justin
Harris, Jordan
Heineman, Emil
Kidney, Riley
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

Giving up 2X 1st round picks; Armia and Harris who can play now; Barron who is in development but still can be played now if they can't resign Deangelo or Pesce, or even flip him in another deal as a package to get picks, or players back. Kidney for the future, Heineman for depth.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Jake Allen: 1 925 000 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Josh Anderson: 4 350 000 $ (5 500 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	88 000 000 $	87 985 417 $	1 022 500 $	3 977 500 $	14 583 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 6	Reinhart, Sam 11 500 000 $11 500 000 $ AD UFA - 8
Stamkos, Steven 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG, C UFA - 4	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG UFA - 1
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Necas, Martin 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ AD RFA
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ G UFA - 3
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Ylönen, Jesse 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2
Trudeau, William 856 667 $856 667 $ DG RFA - 1
Gignac, Brandon 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 1

18 juin à 11 h 26

SociallyHawkward

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Hawks aren't paying for your cap dump no matter how you try to spin it.

Kyle_Davidson, Snowhawk18, ChiHawk and 4 others a aimé ceci.

18 juin à 11 h 28

Kyle_Davidson

Kyle from Chicago

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If you have to start a trade description off with “before you go nuts on me…” it probably isn’t a great trade. Wayyyy back when I first joined cap friendly I remember getting flamed for saying Brent Seabrook and some garbage later round picks was worth Floridas first round pick for much the same reasons you are suggesting here. It was deserved flaming, and helped teach me a lesson, and so now you should benefit from knowing…

Chicago rejects.

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18 juin à 11 h 31

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

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Dvorak needs to play and then maybe around the trade deadline a contender takes him on as a third line center but other than that I don't see anyone taking him off our hands free this off season.

ChiHawk, Bedsy_Burner, Hawksguy81 and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

18 juin à 11 h 33

ChiHawk

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Makes no sense for any team to pay for a cap dump regardless of their own situations. Hawks can easily sign a free agent that's not a cap dump. To think Dvorak gets a 3rd is a bit crazy honestly.

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18 juin à 11 h 34

PaulKorea

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Like always, Hawks aren't paying for Dvorak.

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18 juin à 11 h 34

Hockeyfan1986

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Firstly, I am positive that Canes don't want prospects or projects/picks. Habs will need to do the work on getting a top 6 to acquire Necas.

Second, you traded for Necas, but didn't resign him. Now you have less than 6mil to play with.

18 juin à 11 h 38

Snowhawk18

Snowhawk

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Look IF Dvorak stays healthy and plays and IF he can rediscover some of the potential he showed in the past then perhaps he MAY be useful. IF he produces at a decent level the Hawks MAY be able to deal at the TDL for a decent return.

That’s just too many if and mays for me to feel comfortable commiting $4.45m to Dvorak. puckpedia’s cap relief calculator estimated the cost of dumping the final year of Dvorak’s cap hit at the 3rd pick of the 2nd round, so I counter with either Montreal’s or Pittsburgh’s 2025 2nd round pick, I will even let you decide which one you send to Chicago.

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18 juin à 12 h 6

Bedsy_Burner

uWu Garak

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If Dvorak plays well enough next season and MTL is willing to retain half his cap hit, MAYBE a team offers a 4th round pick for him. But they are NOT getting a 3rd for him at any point.

PaulKorea, Hawksguy81, SociallyHawkward and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

18 juin à 12 h 49

Turbo

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Sometimes all the 'this cap dump can actually help Bedard' posts make me happy this site is shutting down

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18 juin à 13 h 47

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klassic

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Send the 3rd with Dvorak and maybe this works for Hawks.

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18 juin à 14 h 6

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WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

Hawks aren't paying for your cap dump no matter how you try to spin it.

Then move on instead of posting absolute meaningless babble..

18 juin à 14 h 9

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WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: Snowhawk18

Finally someone who's got a head on his shoulder and comes back with something interesting. I'd do that 2nd pick. LIke I said, open to honest debate, not babble from trolls.

Thank you sir for at least coming back with better info.

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18 juin à 14 h 10

#13

WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: Turbo

Sometimes all the 'this cap dump can actually help Bedard' posts make me happy this site is shutting down

Just looking at your pic indicates a troll. Move on and get a freaking life instead of putting on an infant costume.

18 juin à 14 h 16

#14

WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson

Thanks. Don't care.. Yes they accept, but modified as per someone who actually came back with some value to his response, Snowhawk18's suggestion of Dvorak + 2nd round pick PIT 2025 to Chicago.

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18 juin à 14 h 22

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mskiko

mattysmokes

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As a canes fan that has seen a ton of these Necas trades, would MTL be better off offer sheeting Necas to like 8 mil than doing this? I have a feeling if a Necas trade doesn't happen before July 1 MTL has the picks to put Carolina in tough spot and the offer sheet saga can continue.

18 juin à 14 h 38

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ChiHawk

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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

Then move on instead of posting absolute meaningless babble..

In fairness, you started the babble thinking dvorak is worth a 3rd just because Bedard asking the Hawks to gamble that he plays well and get a 3rd back the TDL...just doesn't make sense if you logically think about it

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18 juin à 16 h 27

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Kyle_Davidson

Kyle from Chicago

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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

Thanks. Don't care.. Yes they accept, but modified as per someone who actually came back with some value to his response, Snowhawk18's suggestion of Dvorak + 2nd round pick PIT 2025 to Chicago.

If you can’t appreciate my sharing experience with you then fine, you are probably young anyways. If you went from Dvorak is worth a third to Chicago to Dvorak is worth sending a high 2nd to Chicago then that speaks to the quality of the value of your initial post anyways.

20 juin à 14 h 59

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WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Modifié 20 juin à 15 h 22

Quoting: Kyle_Davidson

Your experience… as what a third grader who put up a pic and name of the Hawks manager thinking your “experience “ is worth a penny???? LMAO!

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