Blues will pass, thanks.

Pass on Laine at this point.

This Norris idea is interesting and I don't think I'm against it. It's a massive risk because if he keeps getting hurt/never lives up to the deal he's going to be a huge burden moving forward, but the upside is also tremendous, especially since we may be pretty weak at center by 2025.

It's a lot to give up, but I'd probably like Buchnevich if we had him and got him extended.

I don't think that's enough for Coleman but I'd also like him.

Marchessault is on the older side, so I'm a little hesitant. I feel like any contract I felt comfortable signing him to would be matched by Vegas and he'd probably stay there lol.

Good picks though! I'd like to see us go after Frank Vatrano, Tyler Bertuzzi or Marco Rossi. Not sure how realistic any of those are though

it would really suck to sell low on Norris but I think the Sens have to at least consider it. I love the guy and the player but his injury concerns making it Schrodinger’s 8M cap hit makes planning a roster pretty brutal

Laine at 2x6 is pretty interesting because if he returns to a 35/40 goal scorer you're set however I don't know what the price is, I wouldnt want to pay a 1st.

There's just no way Vegas can afford Marchessault.

I think Anaheim wanted a 1st for Vatrano. Apparently Toronto wants to keep Bertuzzi and not sure Lou wants him after the whole Covid vax thing. Keep being told Isles don't have intriguing enough assets for Rossi

With Stutzle and Pinto being your long term C's it makes Norris really tough. Even if you move Stutzle to wing do you really want Pinto or Norris on the top line? Both seem to be 2Cs moving forward. This to me gets Ottawa out of a risky deal, bring back Pageau who is kinda what they need, a playoff-style player and a 1st round pick

I’d far sooner move Norris to the wing regardless, but yeah all fair points

Curious to hear the reasoning behind that? 6'2 200 Center that wins 52% of his draws, makes me wonder why he'd move to wing? Either way probably not ideal to have an 8M winger in Norris who'd already be behind Tkachuk and could potentially hinder Greig from ever moving up to line 2

Idk, if he's healthy and we didn't give up too much maybe I'd be open to Laine? This past season aside, he missed a good chunk of 21-22 and 22-23 due to injury and is pretty notorious for having zero interest in playing defense. I think we could do better personally.

Honestly I'd give 20th overall for Vatrano if we extended him post-trade. I think we'll let Palmieri go next offseason and Vatrano feels like natural replacement. I love his game and I think he'd be extremely valuable, even if he doesn't score 37 again

I like Vatrano a lot, I'm just very skeptical about his production going forward and his contract. He seems to be more of a 45-50 point player than what he was this past year and the next question becomes what contract does he demand?

with Norris’ primary issue being his shoulder, I’d want to start by reducing the amount of draws he takes. he’s also struggled at 5 on 5 at times and I’d like to simplify his role with him on the wing. Pinto plays a much more refined 200ft game and Stützle is far best suited as a C because he thrives with as many puck touches as possible. Letting Norris be a pure shooter and north-south winger getting fed pucks by guys like Stützle would put him in a nicer position to succeed imo. and his height is kinda irrelevant because he really doesn’t play the body any more than any other top 6 forward, and I’m guessing he’ll be extra tentative coming off the shoulder reinjury. Ideally I’d want him on RW so he can use his one timer, which creates a really strong right side of Giroux/Norris/Batherson, meaning Greig as 3C has at least 1 really nice winger. he’ll also inevitably get chances in the top 6 with injuries and whatnot anyways

So for injury preventative reasons really. I already knew Pinto and Stutzle were the superior centers but what you're saying does make sense.

yeah just a mix of injury prevention and still fitting him into a top 6 while on a team with two better 5 on 5 centres

Makes a ton of sense

That doesn't get Coleman who isn't being shopped anyhow.

I agree, i think vatrano is more of a 22 G 45 pt guy on any other team and he’ll want 6+ mill on a long term contract at age 30

Yea exactly. Even if he wants 5.5M over 3 years its still an overpay. He's a middle 6 winger, more of a 2nd line, and he's going to want top 6 money. I'll pass just for that reason alone tho he does fit well

I don't see Coleman being moved, unless he specifically asks to get traded.

The Flames have Kadri, Huberdeau, Backlund, and Coleman to help guide and develop our younger forwards to play the right way. I see all 4 sticking around for the remainder of their contracts.

Laine isn't getting no 1st round pick, He's missed 150 games in the past 6 seasons for an average of 25 games per season. He's basically worthless with health issues.

The same with Norris who's not worth a 1st, The guy has already 3 busted shoulders and one more and his career is likely over

That offer for Pavel Buchnevich would be blown away. Not even close as Detroit has tons of interest in him and would offer Jonatan Berggrem+Willian Wallinder and our 15th overall pick that's a much better value for them.

Laine being moved is unlikely. There's no pressure on the Jackets, either from him or from the cap, to sell low on the guy, so there's no reason to insist on valuing him as anything less than what he's been in union blue - a top-line near-PPG scoring winger.

That said, I don't think that trade would be accepted, mostly because the Jackets' prospect pool is already built; we just need to be developing the kids we already have. So just Adding More Picks isn't really a strong incentive.