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Créé par: The_Rocket
Équipe: 2024-25 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2024
Publié: 27 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 250 000 $
1775 000 $
57 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
35 000 000 $
55 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Necas, Martin7 000 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025
Transactions
1.
VAN
    Pesce UFA rights
    CAR
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
    2.
    VAN
    1. Vatrano, Frank
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
    Détails additionnels:
    29 OA
    ANA
    1. Hronek, Filip [Droits de RFA]
    3.
    4.
    VAN
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
    MTL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de VAN
    2025
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    2026
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2387 700 000 $87 396 667 $0 $0 $303 333 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    11 600 000 $11 600 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 8
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    825 000 $825 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    G
    RFA
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1

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    27 mai à 14 h 59
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    Canes snap match the offer sheet
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    27 mai à 14 h 59
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    Canes match then flip him to a team that actually has assets they would be interested in
    27 mai à 15 h 0
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    laugh Necas will be gone by the draft, So you can't offer sheet him in Carolina.

    Brett Pesce signs that low-ball offer in Carolina not Vancouver
    27 mai à 15 h 4
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    I personally could work with this Hronek trade but my colleagues on this site may not. So ask them:

    @OldNYIFan @GiggyWithGibby @GeneralLandro

    Thoughts?
    27 mai à 15 h 4
    #5
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    Canes match then flip him to a team that actually has assets they would be interested in


    if you match an offer sheet you can't trade the player
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    27 mai à 15 h 5
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    if you match an offer sheet you can't trade the player


    Then they’d rather just keep him than have some late picks
    27 mai à 15 h 5
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    Quoting: LosPatos
    I personally could work with this Hronek trade but my colleagues on this site may not. So ask them:

    OldNYIFan GiggyWithGibby GeneralLandro

    Thoughts?


    in general the feedback i have received is either

    a) hronek would not be the first choice for some ANA fans but for the right price it could be done
    b) 1st plus vatrano might be a bit rich. tbh i would add a mid round pick on vas side to push it thorugh
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    27 mai à 15 h 8
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Canes snap match the offer sheet


    maybe. even with guentzel, skjei, jarvis, drury, chatfield, and teravainen all free agents as well, maybe they'd rather take the assets and keep other guys
    27 mai à 15 h 8
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    in general the feedback i have received is either

    a) hronek would not be the first choice for some ANA fans but for the right price it could be done
    b) 1st plus vatrano might be a bit rich. tbh i would add a mid round pick on vas side to push it thorugh


    I think I would do a second and Vatrano for Hronek too. I obviously would choose Pesce over Hronek because of not having to give up assets. But getting a good RHD that is 26 would be great because of the timeline of the Ducks.

    I think the price could be etched a bit to work better, but I really like the idea of Hronek in SoCal
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    27 mai à 15 h 9
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    Quoting: The_Rocket
    maybe. even with guentzel, skjei, jarvis, drury, chatfield, and teravainen all free agents as well, maybe they'd rather take the assets and keep other guys


    Skjei's gone, Chatfield's gone, Jarvis, Drury, Guentzel, Pesce, and Necas can all be signed. They'll keep them over the spare parts leaving...
    27 mai à 15 h 12
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    Quoting: LosPatos
    I personally could work with this Hronek trade but my colleagues on this site may not. So ask them:

    OldNYIFan GiggyWithGibby GeneralLandro

    Thoughts?


    I’m not even coming close to a yes. Way way way way to rich for me

    Hronek doesn’t feel like he is the move plus I don’t want to give him $8,000,000 or whatever he will want
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    27 mai à 15 h 14
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    CHI declines.
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    27 mai à 15 h 14
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    Canes match that and Pesce isn’t signing that low ball offer.
    27 mai à 15 h 17
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    Then they’d rather just keep him than have some late picks


    Quoting: The_Rocket
    in general the feedback i have received is either

    a) hronek would not be the first choice for some ANA fans but for the right price it could be done
    b) 1st plus vatrano might be a bit rich. tbh i would add a mid round pick on vas side to push it thorugh


    Feels a bit rich, and is largely dependant on Hroneks salary requests. He's turned down a 6.5x8 already from what we've heard. I'm not sure I really want to pay him past 6.5 on an 8 year deal. I might be willing to offer more AAV, but I would be taking away term.

    Franky is on an amazing contract for what he's shown he can bring the last two seasons. I would probably counter with the Boston 2nd instead of the Edmonton first, and then settle in the middle for the Anaheim 2nd with something minor coming back the other with with Hronek, but again, all depends on his salary demands.
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    27 mai à 15 h 21
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    I’m not even coming close to a yes. Way way way way to rich for me

    Hronek doesn’t feel like he is the move plus I don’t want to give him $8,000,000 or whatever he will want


    Fair
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    27 mai à 15 h 23
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    Quoting: LosPatos
    Fair


    For me, I’m not really looking to dish out big money past 2 years

    I don’t want to be screwed when it comes to resigning basically everyone the next 2 years
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    27 mai à 15 h 54
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    Quoting: LosPatos
    I think I would do a second and Vatrano for Hronek too. I obviously would choose Pesce over Hronek because of not having to give up assets. But getting a good RHD that is 26 would be great because of the timeline of the Ducks.

    I think the price could be etched a bit to work better, but I really like the idea of Hronek in SoCal


    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    I’m not even coming close to a yes. Way way way way to rich for me

    Hronek doesn’t feel like he is the move plus I don’t want to give him $8,000,000 or whatever he will want


    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    Feels a bit rich, and is largely dependant on Hroneks salary requests. He's turned down a 6.5x8 already from what we've heard. I'm not sure I really want to pay him past 6.5 on an 8 year deal. I might be willing to offer more AAV, but I would be taking away term.

    Franky is on an amazing contract for what he's shown he can bring the last two seasons. I would probably counter with the Boston 2nd instead of the Edmonton first, and then settle in the middle for the Anaheim 2nd with something minor coming back the other with with Hronek, but again, all depends on his salary demands.

    I think that we're all in agreement here. My initial reaction before reading your comments was that I would be wary of making any deal until I knew what Hronek's asking price is, and my trade valuation s the same as Gibby's -- the Boston second and Vatrano or, my particular preference, the Edmonton first plus someone else instead of Frankie. (Jones? Lundestrom? Groulx? LaCombe? Vaakanainen?)
     
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