Seth to Utah

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Créé par: boilermaker

Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 12 mai 2024

Publié: 12 mai 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The new Utah ownership likely wants to make some big moves this summer via trades and free agency. They are not the Arizona Coyotes any more and will take some steps to become a playoff contender. One of those moves is to acquire Seth Jones for their 1st round 2024 pick. Seth agrees to waive his NMC since he's tired of losing and figures Utah is further along their rebuild than Chicago. Chicago can retain 2M of Jones AAV.

Hawks select Levshunov with the 2nd overall and he becomes their projected #1 RD in a couple of years. With the Utah pick, 6th overall, The Hawks select a forward. Maybe Lindstom if still on the board, or Catton, or even Eiserman.

Meanwhile the Hawks sign a couple of defensemen in Roy and Chatfield to play the right side as placeholders until Levshunov and Rinzel are ready. Monahan and Sprong also signed to bolster the forward group.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Anderson, Joey	2	1 000 000 $
Crevier, Louis	1	900 000 $
Entwistle, Mackenzie	1	900 000 $
Guttman, Cole	2	1 000 000 $
Johnson, Reese	1	1 000 000 $
Phillips, Isaak	1	1 000 000 $
Stauber, Jaxson	2	1 000 000 $
Raddysh, Taylor	2	1 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Chatfield, Jalen	3	3 000 000 $
Roy, Matt	4	4 500 000 $
Monahan, Sean	3	3 500 000 $
Sprong, Daniel	3	4 000 000 $

Transactions

CHI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)

ARI

Jones, Seth (2 000 000 $ retained)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CHI)

Rachats de contrats

Josh Bailey: 1 166 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jake McCabe: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
Seth Jones: 2 000 000 $ (21.05%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	83 500 000 $	68 376 667 $	0 $	6 675 000 $	15 123 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Bedard, Connor 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) C RFA - 2	Kurashev, Philipp 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1
Reichel, Lukas 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ AG, C RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA	Sprong, Daniel 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Foligno, Nick 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Dickinson, Jason 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Nazar, Frank 950 000 $950 000 $ (900 000 $$900K) AD, C RFA - 2
Slaggert, Landon 912 500 $912 500 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG RFA - 1	Donato, Ryan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Athanasiou, Andreas 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Anderson, Joey 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD RFA	Entwistle, Mackenzie 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, C RFA	Raddysh, Taylor 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD RFA
	Johnson, Reese 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Alex 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Roy, Matt 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA	Mrázek, Petr 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Korchinski, Kevin 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DG RFA - 2	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Söderblom, Arvid 962 500 $962 500 $ G RFA - 1
Kaiser, Wyatt 916 667 $916 667 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Chatfield, Jalen 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA
Phillips, Isaak 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG RFA

12 mai à 10 h 50

exo2769

Rejoint: juill. 2015

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Woah, no retention. Way to long to retain.

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12 mai à 11 h 1

csick

KFTW

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Not for this tho

12 mai à 11 h 2

csick

KFTW

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Quoting: exo2769

Woah, no retention. Way to long to retain.

By the time the 6th overall needs to be paid , it’ll be 4 years. Even then a bridge is possible and then Jones expires.

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12 mai à 11 h 7

CoachQ

Rejoint: juill. 2015

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I'm not crazy about trading Seth. He's played better than people are giving him credit for. Is he overpaid? Yes but only by maybe $1MM. Not a problem cap wise for the Hawks. As far as the trade goes, I'm okay with it although given the depth of defensemen and lack of depth at forward in this draft, I might be tempted to take Demidov at #2 and then a defenseman like Silayev, Buium or Dickinson at #6. I'm thinking though that the more likely scenario is that Seth stays ad Utah signs Roy and Chatfield and then drafts a defenseman.

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12 mai à 11 h 9

exo2769

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Modifié 12 mai à 11 h 47

Quoting: csick

By the time the 6th overall needs to be paid , it’ll be 4 years. Even then a bridge is possible and then Jones expires.

I just want to keep Jones. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NHL considering all the Leafs fans saying hes worth $5M...crazy! Yes our team isn't good right now. He's still 25atoi playing against the opponents top pair and was with essentially a rookie the entire year last year. Yes Vlasic is good, but rookies are still rookies.

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12 mai à 11 h 44

SociallyHawkward

Rejoint: avr. 2019

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Quoting: CoachQ

My thoughts exactly.

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12 mai à 11 h 46

boilermaker

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I agree Seth is a capable player, though overpaid by a couple of million. And playing 25 minutes is important as the younger defenders learn their way. I'm just looking forward 2 or 3 years and would want Levshunov and a good forward prospect on the cusp of making the team at that time instead of a possibly declining Jones. I have a feeling Seth's contract isn't going to age very well. He probably has 3-4 years left of good play, then the wear and tear of playing all those minutes will come into play. He'll be a boat anchor for the last 2 years, so trade him now while he has value (ripe opportunity if you ask me with Utah) and obtain a future asset that will be coming into his own when the team becomes competitive.

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12 mai à 11 h 47

MisstheWhalers

Rejoint: janv. 2019

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What an awful trade for Utah.

12 mai à 11 h 50

exo2769

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Quoting: boilermaker

But even if it is 3-4 years. He's still going to be capable of 2nd pair responsibilities and we're still going to have plenty of cap space with all the prospects coming up. I much rather have proper prospect development with veterans on the team than trade away all the veterans.

12 mai à 12 h 13

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LivingAnew

Rejoint: mai 2023

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Quoting: boilermaker

I really like this idea. Yes, Seth is a solid #1 for the Hawks these days; playing an important role for ~25 minutes a game that no one else on the Hawks can. I'd look to overpay DeMelo for four years, as an interim fix while Levshunov, Rinzel, and others ripen. He's not Seth Jones, but he'd do, IMO.

Grabbing the #6 OA would be a huge win, in addition to our #2 OA... Those two picks could greatly impact the Hawks' future, while enabling Utah to announce to the hockey world - and their fans - that their franchise is new and aggressive. That, plus Utah is further along in their rebuild, so Seth may waive to go there.

Excellent job, Boiler. I hope the Hawks find a way to make it happen. Cheers

12 mai à 12 h 24

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GMBL

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Quoting: CoachQ

If I was CHI I would take Levshunov and Silayev if possible. They get their future RD, and a rare specimen in Silayev. They'll likely be very bad for another year, at the very least, and will be able to pick up a comparable forward to Demidov or (any other forward prospect that they may want). They should have no problem attracting top-talent via free agency in the future if a 1st line winger becomes available. Eiserman would be a good pick if they didn't already have Bedard who is an amazing goal scorer and Nazar who might be a goal scorer as well.

If Anaheim, CLB, or MTL take Silayev, I don't think they should trade Jones for the 6OV unless they can turn that into a young somewhat established forward like Zegras or someone like Marner, but I would assume they could trade Jones+ for Marner straight.

12 mai à 12 h 35

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boilermaker

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Quoting: exo2769

Levshunov and Rinzel could be holding down the top 2 RD pairings by that time. I'll worry about the 3rd pair RD down the road. Also in my scenario, they are signing 4 veterans, 2F and 2D, for the next 3 years to help bring the prospects along.

12 mai à 12 h 39

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boilermaker

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

What an awful trade for Utah.

Depends on what Utah thinks. And they can use a few defensemen on their roster for next year and going forward. They could also market Jones to the new fan base. I think Jones is reasonably paid for what he is at 7.5M. Hence my idea of the 2M retention.

12 mai à 12 h 40

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boilermaker

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Quoting: GMBL

I don't think Jones will waive for Toronto and vice versa as far as Marner is concerned.

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12 mai à 12 h 52

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: boilermaker

I would just way rather a 6th overall pick and even with the retention don't think Jones is worth that early of a pick, if Chicago had a middish 1st they were sending with Jones then maybe it's worth considering but imo this here isn't worth it for Utah.

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Seth to Utah

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Signatures de joueurs autonomes

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Rachats de contrats

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

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