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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles

1 mai à 18 h 39
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Quoting: aadoyle
Cooper aint leaving TBL and we have a 4 year window would be a huge waste to wait for him and waste Matthews prime years

Go get the guy available now so we avoid another Cassidy incident


I guess it all depends on how we do this year.
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Hopefully Tampa fires cooper


They wont

He got them b2b cups and TBL is not in rebuild mode. If he goes its in 2026 when his deals up but I doubt it

Probs will extend him next season
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They wont lul


They would be stupid to yup
1 mai à 18 h 43
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To prevent another Cassidy incident if Brind'Amour becomes available TOR should be all over him

OTT and NJ may also jump in but we can outbid them easily

Give him the Babcock deal and welcome him on a red carpet
1 mai à 18 h 45
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To prevent another Cassidy incident if Brind'Amour becomes available TOR should be all over him

OTT and NJ may also jump in but we can outbid them easily

Give him the Babcock deal and welcome him on a red carpet


The thing though is we would have to lose to see that happen. And while I am done with Keefe, I am not done with this season. Let's win the next one.
1 mai à 19 h 0
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Quoting: RipNasty
I think Cooper's problem is personnel. Their defence isn't what it used to be and they are old and run down. Zero depth.

Cooper is my number 1.


That' fine... But just letting you know, we'll be experiencing similar problems to Keefe
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I mean that TBL team had flaws. Besides Kucherov and Stamkos not much else to show that year.

Cooper did the same before and the also to the guy who ended up in NSH

Like Bob made SOTY to allow his team to win game 3 or 4 I believe


Was just letting you know his last couple of years
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That' fine... But just letting you know, we'll be experiencing similar problems to Keefe


Cooper won the cup twice
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To prevent another Cassidy incident if Brind'Amour becomes available TOR should be all over him

OTT and NJ may also jump in but we can outbid them easily

Give him the Babcock deal and welcome him on a red carpet


Give him everything he wants, term, money and more control over the roster tbh
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Cooper won the cup twice

He got outcoached by the guy we've been complaining gets outcoached
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The thing though is we would have to lose to see that happen. And while I am done with Keefe, I am not done with this season. Let's win the next one.


Unless somehow Leafs go on a magic Cinderella run to SCF Keefe's gone. Can see the writing on the wall a R2 appearance or exit wont save him this time. MLSE is growing impatient they want a cup.

Leafs be already struggling vs. BOS in terms of special teams and scoring more than 2 goals and even if they somehow finish off the Bruins they got a bigger adversary to face in FLA who I just cant see TOR beating right now after watching that series vs. TBL.

In general, Keefe's been around long enough, 2019 he started and between then and now 1 series win thats it. Maybe we see another but yea dont see it saving him

Avoid another Cassidy incident and go get Brind'Amour
1 mai à 19 h 8
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Give him everything he wants, term, money and more control over the roster tbh


I wouldnt give full autonomy over the roster but I would give him 8m x 4 years or basically biggest coaching contract in NHL history
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He got outcoached by the guy we've been complaining gets outcoached


He absolutely did not. Tampa out played us heavily. We were absolutely lucky to get out of the 1st round last year. It's becoming clear you only see results at the very basic level and nothing beyond that.

Cooper outcoached the entire league for 2 straight seasons. Now they just don't have the depth to compete.
1 mai à 19 h 22
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Unless somehow Leafs go on a magic Cinderella run to SCF Keefe's gone. Can see the writing on the wall a R2 appearance or exit wont save him this time. MLSE is growing impatient they want a cup.

Leafs be already struggling vs. BOS in terms of special teams and scoring more than 2 goals and even if they somehow finish off the Bruins they got a bigger adversary to face in FLA who I just cant see TOR beating right now after watching that series vs. TBL.

In general, Keefe's been around long enough, 2019 he started and between then and now 1 series win thats it. Maybe we see another but yea dont see it saving him

Avoid another Cassidy incident and go get Brind'Amour


I am not so sure I trust Treliving to make the right decision on coaching. He was awful at that in Calgary.
1 mai à 19 h 22
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I think Cooper's problem is personnel. Their defence isn't what it used to be and they are old and run down. Zero depth.

Cooper is my number 1.


Cooper has a contract.
RBA doesnt
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I am not so sure I trust Treliving to make the right decision on coaching. He was awful at that in Calgary.


If Brind’Amour goes to market will be the best coach available and MLSE or Shanahan will tell him go get this guy. Brind’Amour fits Brad's style of team building and will get these players playing the style that best fits Brad's guys .

CGY Owenership was also a big part in the guys he picked like Sutter. Whenever he searched rarely were there good FA for him to target there.
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Cooper has a contract.
RBA doesnt


Yeah.
1 mai à 19 h 27
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Cooper has a contract.
RBA doesnt


Yep now Cooper's does expire 2026 but we gonna waste a year waiting hell nah

Avoid another Cassidy go get the better guy
1 mai à 21 h 29
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London WINS

Cowen gets his 1st goal of the series, 3-1 as we head back to London for game 5.

I might have to grab a ticket (if it isn't already sold out)
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1 mai à 21 h 38
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Quoting: RipNasty
Over Cooper?


The Bolts would be so dumb to fire Coop. I'd pick him 10 times out of 10 if he were available
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1 mai à 23 h 3
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Quoting: aadoyle
I wouldnt give full autonomy over the roster but I would give him 8m x 4 years or basically biggest coaching contract in NHL history


Just some control over the team, like suggestions to management over players they should bring in and stuff

Quoting: RipNasty
He absolutely did not. Tampa out played us heavily. We were absolutely lucky to get out of the 1st round last year. It's becoming clear you only see results at the very basic level and nothing beyond that.

Cooper outcoached the entire league for 2 straight seasons. Now they just don't have the depth to compete.


It's such revionsionists history to think that... think of the games individually, Tampa should have won 2/6 (G1 and G3) whereas Toronto should have won 4 (G2, G4, G5 and G6), so it evens out

Cooper did outcoach the league for multiple years, but so did Babcock, are we trying to sign him too?
1 mai à 23 h 21
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London WINS

Cowen gets his 1st goal of the series, 3-1 as we head back to London for game 5.

I might have to grab a ticket (if it isn't already sold out)


I’m very out of the loop with the OHL lol, how did the rangers do this year? Did they make the playoffs (I’m a rangers fan in case you were wondering lol)
1 mai à 23 h 30
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
He got outcoached by the guy we've been complaining gets outcoached


Excuse me what? LOL

Cooper did not get outcoached at all. Tampa outplayed the Leafs for most of that series but the Leafs got lucky at times.

I don't know what you were watching but playing rope-a-dope for 2 periods and finally getting your act together for the 3rd period and OT was anything but outcoaching.
1 mai à 23 h 50
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I guess it all depends on how we do this year.


The only scenario I would be okay with Keefe back as the coach would be a finals appearance. Yeah it's a high bar but...now we're in the later stages of this core's years and can't waste time with poor coaching choices/decisions.
2 mai à 0 h 8
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I’m very out of the loop with the OHL lol, how did the rangers do this year? Did they make the playoffs (I’m a rangers fan in case you were wondering lol)


Knights swept the rangers in the 2nd round
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